Thema advertising it as a Linux Phone is misleading imho. They should focus on advertising it as an alternative to Android/iOS with optional Android App support.

But from a Hardware point of view you are right. It is not a flagship device. In regards to repairability at least the battery can be replaced.

Then get a Fairphone, that said, most of the people who have purchased the Jolla Phone have gotten 256 GB for 500-580 EUR. I personally got it for 580 EUR.

Which one of those Linux distros on Fairphone is as daily driveable as a phone as Sailfish OS?

Are there any reviews available for the Murena?

This is what really makes it a non-starter for me. Also, if there was a mainline kernel, I could just install any other distro I want instead.

I'm still waiting for a somewhat modern phone with a fully functional mainline kernel.

The app format lock in sounds crazy to me. How does it stop you from running other apps? Does it not have a terminal? Does it not give you sudo? Does it refuse to run any executables, or is it about the ui toolkit?

Sorry for the barrage, that sounded outrageous

Sailfish OS can run on mainline kernel. The Jolla Phone does not run a mainline kernel because it consists of off the shelf phone components and those are for Android phones outside of the world of iOS.

Mainlining is anything but easy if you aim is a functioning daily driver and not a tinker project, especially in a team as small as Jolla's with so many more urgent tasks.

PS: Angelfish runs just fine on my Jolla Phone.

I'm personally more interested in following the development of postmarketOS, the only non-proprietary project that does not rely on Google/Android, though it's not yet production ready for the average user in most cases.

Got an email, they told me it should arrive later this month, although i think is going to be early october.

I have a Pixel 9 Pro Fold with GrapheneOS on it. Supposedly, the hinge has been tested to 200k folds with no issue, and it does indeed feel solid. I only use the inside screen a few times a day max though, so there's no way I'm going to verify anywhere close to 200k folds before something else fails or just gets too outdated. It might not hold up for someone who abuses their tech a lot, but I haven't broken a single phone screen in 20 years often just running with a case and no screen protection, and I expect I'm not the only one in that market.

It's worth mentioning that I bought the phone new and unlocked but at a massive bargain ($720 USD). I definitely would not have grabbed it near full price.

the video blows, dude. jolla are opensource takers, they don't have a free tier so you can't just install it and take it for a spin. so an actual "here's how it works" video is beneficial.

my contention is that sailfish should be the next thing, after wrangling it out of the hands of those fucks. not forked android, not tweaked gnome shell on postmarketos.

this video wastes time on converting imaginary people over who don't know they're being spied on (the three hour long, or so it felt, intro with pichai and friends) showing ubuntu touch (wtf) and the presenter's face in the frame for what feels like 90% of the video.

this is a shit video on its own and especially for the target audience here.

Absolutely! There is also a forum thread that discusses this topic: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/would-the-new-2026-jolla-phone-work-in-the-us/30366

Agreed, annoying how much people are moving the goalpost for this thing. It's an actually usable alternative to android and ios, with hardware features literally voted by the community. It's not perfect, but it's actually viable, with features people actually wanted.

Buying a used pixel on eBay doesn’t give Google any money. I agree with the rest of you point but I think it’s facetious to act like you have no option but to pay Google directly to get a pixel.

Ubuntu, Android... even they have proprietary parts. That’s the business. SailfishOS does too, but only a small part (~20%) is proprietary, like some UI components and hardware drivers. It’s not fully closed, just a pragmatic mix to work on real devices. So yes, you gotta pay the Jolla team.