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[–] 41 points 3 months ago (23 children)

I was thankful enough to have a tandem 7th-8th grade combo of English and History teachers who taught us the value of cognitive awareness. Followed by a high school math teacher that introduced me to "A True History of the United States" because they actually gave a damn. It's far too easy to see that we are the new Roman Empire, but on a speed run.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (22 children)

    Eh... 250 years aint a record, but given that the firmware was clearly not changed since then... -C.

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  • [+] -19 points 3 months ago (21 children)

    State your country and how it's better than the failure of the U.S.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

    You can basically throw a dart at the map and hit a country better than the US in some way. The US is ranked pretty far down in just about every metric you would want in a good society.

    You don't have to be an expert to see that, you just have to not be blind.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    I called the U.S. a failure in the comment you are replying too... So you failed to answer any of the question and then tried to act like I was "blind."

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    You really want me to do your Googling for you to find basically ANY international country ranking?

    The US is not near the top of anything other than things like most incarcerated, highest homeless population, highest opiate use , obesity rate, etc.

    Wikipedia has a fairly comprehensive list of pages for various international rankings, including the original sources for you to take a look at if you actually want an answer instead of just shitposting stupid responses to comments. The US is speedrunning its way towards becoming a failed State. If you can't see that writing on the wall, then you might be illiterate.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Absolute failure of reading comprehension and trying to misdirect the conversation because you didn't want to answer the question, when you simply could have not answered at all ..

    Here let me some show you a proper response to that comment.

    "I'm from Canada and mothers are 2-6x less likely to die during their pregnancy here varying drastically by race"

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Not a misdirect at all, I can't answer the question as it was asked because I'm American...

    We're not the greatest at anything worthwhile anymore. And this isn't new, The Newsroom spelled this out quite plainly nearly 2 decades ago, and it's only gotten worse since then.

    The government has been being slowly co-opted by fascists who have been enshitifying the country for several decades, since before I was even born. I've also had the privilege over the years to visit several other countries, visiting friends across the world, not just tourist traps, something most Americans never do. So I think I have a very direct experience with how the US compares to other countries.

    Why do your responses seem to be about defending the US as somehow better than it is, blindly?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    Most countries are better than the US in most regards.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    What a ridiculously stupid to say to say. You know that resisting propaganda doesn't just mean going to another extreme, right?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    What a ridiculously stupid to say to say.

    LOL.

    You name the metric, I'll show you how most countries are better than the US.

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  • [+] -6 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Failed to answer any of the question. 0/10

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Which metric is important to you? The US is 10th or below in every single one.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    "State your country and how it's better than the failure of the U.S."

    That was what you were answering. You have not stated your country or how it was better than the failure that is the U.S.

    You are just stating the U.S. isn't good, while this was already established by it being stated as a failure.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    It doesn't matter what country I'm from, it's better than the US, in almost every measurable metric of happiness, prosperity, or longevity, lol.

    The vagueness is the point of my answer.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    It doesn’t matter what country I’m from

    It never does when people like you make this argument. How convenient.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    My country is better than the US in most regards, as are most other countries in the world. Youve been brainwashed to think America number 1, but your only number one in infant mortality, gun violence, and corruption.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    And yet you still won't name it, you fucking coward.

    We are not number one infant mortality and corruption, you fucking dumbass. Do you even what the Transparency Index is?

    You fucking bigots think you can just state ANYTHING as a fact as long as it's anti-American. It's beyond pathetic.

    The US is no where near "number 1" in infant mortality. What are you basing your assertion? Anything asides from "feels"? Try actual data, you dumbshit bigot.

    Gun violence, admittedly a problem, but stating we're "number 1" is just a further demonstration of your ignorance: The U.S. firearm-death rate was 13.2 per 100,000 in 2023, below Venezuela, El Salvador, Haiti, Colombia, Mexico, Brazil and several other countries.

    Number one in corruption? Transparency International puts the US as 26th out of 182 countries. In case you didn't know, which is extremely likely, the lower number the less corruption.

    What makes you think you just make shit up like that? Do you think it makes you MORE credible somehow? It's just a blatant statement of your incredible ignorance or maybe willing ignorance to defend your bigotry.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Is someone butt hurt their country is garbage, when they've been told again and again it's the best, most special, freest country ever? :(

    Please write 10 more paragraphs crying about it, and I'll think about engaging.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    “I pledge allegiance,to the flag, …”

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago* (5 children)

    I was lucky. In school, I had more than one teacher say "y'know, you don't have to say that. Especially if you're from another nation." So I just used the time to do homework late.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

    My high school homeroom teacher allowed me to stay quiet during the pledge, but still made me stand up and put my hand over my heart. In 11th grade I moved to a more conservative area of the state, but oddly enough they had more students who opted to stay seated and silent, and the teachers let me do the same.

    It was around that time that I started feeling like there was something wrong with all the "America's so great!" stuff we had been taught since 1st grade. I completely deprogrammed when I had the opportunity to work alongside people from all over the world, learn more about their culture, their family, become friends. I began to see the world differently, and my perspective shifted as I learned more about the consequences of American policies and interventions that they don't tell you about in the evening news.

    So I guess what I'm getting at is that back then, I didn't say the pledge because part of me was beginning to question the reasons why it was (practically) compulsory. These days, I wouldn't say it because I cannot in good conscience support imperialism.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Holly shit. They made you do this through high school. This was only a thing for me In elementary school. We had to sing too.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Core memory unlocked
    Oh man, I forgot about the singing!

    I remember we were taught several patriotic songs in first and second grades; I distinctly remember "America the Beautiful", "Battle Hymn of the Republic", and "My Country, 'Tis of Thee". Each day the school would choose one of the songs and were forced to sing it immediately after reciting the pledge.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I grew up accepting the propaganda wholesale, then at some point when I was around 16, my critical thinking skills suddenly switched on all at once and I was like “Wait a second, this is all some bullshit!” This didn’t seem to be due to any external influence, I think my brain just rebooted.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    What kind of propaganda are you guys getting? In my 9th grade American history class they didn't shy away from Native American genocide, police brutality (starting with the whiskey rebellion), and the civil war being about slavery. But that wasnt at a normal school.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    When I was in elementary school my teacher said it was cool that the natives got pushed off the land and into reservations because we could make better use of the land. The same teacher also handed out worksheets wherein you had to choose the right gender for the right profession.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Well OP does say they didn't pay attention in class lmaooo. My public school teachs all that and it's mandatory education in Illinois

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Ah see but thats a blue state with the third largest city in the country; I've heard about the education down in Floroda and let me tell you it does not come close to even the worst schools in Chicago.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    It all depends on the state. You were in a state that respects education.

    In Florida, DeSantis declared that they weren't going to be teaching anything that made white kids ashamed of being white. They don't like kids knowing about Native Americans and Slavery.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago
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    I've got a personal theory on this. ADHD and autism don't break the brain, but they do significantly change how it processes information. This, in turn, gives us a significant resistance to broad spectrum propaganda, via incompatibility. It's akin to a windows virus not working on Linux.

    It's worth noting that it's not a resistance to propaganda in general, just the type intended for "normal" people. We can still be caught out by targeted efforts. Normally, we aren't worth that effort, but AI and its related work will likely change that.

    Basically, we have awesome natural defenses, but don't just rely on them, since they can be bypassed.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Public schools are indoctrination machines - Period. Narrative would you feel comfortable with them teaching? Because I guarantee a problem will be found with it.

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