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[–] 30 points 3 months ago (30 children)

This is way too true. Also switches are the cruelest doms (in the best way)

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (15 children)

    not me

    i have no idea how to be cruel in an enjoyable hot way

    when dominating, i am quite soft

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (13 children)

    I can be either, depending on what the sub wants tbh. I just get off on other people getting as much pleasure as they can have.

    I love a good soft Dom myself but I can also be a pain slut depending on where I'm at in my cycle, so I understand the appeal of both. Hell I also love a good soft psychological dom that uses degradation to play mind games with me .

    All I'm interested in when I dom is seeing somebody whimper and beg for me, by any means.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    Hell I also love a good soft psychological dom that uses degradation to play mind games with me .

    OwO

    need need need need need need

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    Right?? It's the bessst ugh. I'm a sucker for the "you're a disgrace and I don't know why I want you so badly" kind of trope haha, like someone is struggling to reconcile why they're so attracted to such a loser 🤭

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

    See now, as an actual switch... or... maybe just literally me (?)... I just actually do not enjoy verbally degrading people, makes me feel disgusted with myself.

    I prefer simply demonstrating, practically, with controlled force, that you are at my mercy.

    ... you might be be able to mind game me out of that... but I would simply enjoy that.

    Or you might be able to physically out do me, which I would also enjoy.

    Not insults though. Genuine turn off for me, giving them or recieving them. Taunts? Dares? Absolutely. Degradation? .... find another switch-dom.

    Now... learning what you like, and withholding it from you? That I can do.

    But... specifically punishing someone with something they do consent to, but causes them genuine discomfort, significant pain or panic?

    Can't do it. Too much of genuinely nice person, or something.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

    That makes total sense! To be fair I'd only do degradation with the most trusted of partners because it needs to come from someone of whose opinion of me i am well aware. Most of the time I'm just a competitive brat hahaha

    Really love a switchy physical power dynamic where power shifts between both partners.

    The mind games and degradation are for a very specific type of itch, however (hint: it's trauma).

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    Oh I'm not even trying to judge you or anything, you don't need to justify anything to me, I just... I am only mean to people I genuinely dislike or hate or despise in some way, or have done something severe, of the same description.

    To me that seems like the antithesis of ... love or just enjoying another person's body... frankly it would make me feel like a rapist, to be intentionally viciously cruel.

    Had ... a few people in my life ask for that, and I just actually couldn't do it... fucking broke down crying, actually.

    I don't know how to pretend to be... viciously, overwhelmingly cruel. I only know how to actually be that way, and I never want to be that way.

    ... i guess I'm saying I'm a method actor, in bed ... ?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    I know plenty of people like that, and I don't think that's wrong, that's probably how we should think about that stuff lol. It should be difficult to be or pretend to be cruel to a person.

    Tbh I may be a bit fucked up, but it's in a fun way, at least, lol. Results in some wires crossed and makes me want that kind of treatment, but in a context where the type and amount of treatment I receive is in my control, as a sub.

    So, the biiig reason I am capable of cruelty when in a dom position is that I understand how it feels as a sub to want to be on the receiving end of it, and how much it can actually help in a therapeutic sense when the proper before and after care is taken. So I guess what im saying is I can tell how much they want it, I can tell how much they enjoy it, and I would never dream of treating a person like that if they didn't actively want it. Like I said in another comment, I enjoy when my partner is enjoying themself.

    Edit: Oh! I also wanted to add, gender power dynamics also play a huge role when dominating men, and a LOT of men like being degraded by women because it's a response to a society that constantly teaches them to treat women like objects, yknow?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Hah!

    but in a context where the type and amount of treatment I receive is in my control, as a sub.

    I laugh because... to me? My sub, sub to my switch?

    You are only in control of essentially what you can trick me into doing. And I tend to be a rather quick learner. Either that or what you can literally force me into doing. You better either figure out one of those... or ... learn my rules. >;D

    Safe words, of course, for emergency stop, but... that's it.

    I revel in the extremely direct and obvious control... but I make the rules of it... very simple. That. That is how I train a sub. You actually have to control or utilize yourself, really, mostly... and in so doing... I become essentially entirely predictable, a 'solved game'. Sub and dom then cease to actually make sense as distinct and consistent concepts.

    So this is kind of the antithesis of at least what I percieve as 'patriarchy'. It is straightforward and obvious... not... taken for granted, via unspoken rules. It is 'total' and domineering... but it is also totally undoable, reversible.

    Quite literally, I'll give you what you want, but only if you play my game, and in so doing, you kind of have to learn to think and act as I do.

    Is that ... manipulation, or communication?

    ... I don't know. Both? Is that feminine, masucline? Both, Other? Don't know, but it is generally quite enjoyable.

    I am forcing or encouraging a condition that makes each of us both subject and object of the other, to the other.

    Eitherway, my psychosexual analysis of myself is... i yearn for a kind of connection on a level that is... not commonly achieved.

    My own kind of 'disasterpiece', hahah!


    Nonetheless, your perspective/style is... interesting. Somewhat relatable, somewhat alien, to me.

    I don't understand the desire to be ... degraded, or used... but I do understand your inversion of it. Makes sense.

    Likewise, I, a bi switch dude, have no desire to be degraded, by a woman... or anyone, really.

    But I do understand that if you are always wearing the mask of 'competent powerful leader man'... the exact opposite of this is deviant and thus secretly desirable/enjoyable.

    I guess uh... case in point: Kristi Noem's husband. Who has been... basically socially cucked, (literally being cucked aside, or ancillary) by his much more socially powerful and influential wife, if he subscribes to stereotypical patriarchichal societal and family roles/norms.

    Results in 'well then I guess I have to be the hyper stereotypical bimbo/trophy wife, because she is clearly the man of the house'.

    A sexist way of humilating himself. ... Ironically, still very self centered.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    I only know how to actually be that way, and I never want to be that way.

    yeah i once had to stop when punishing a partner because genuine hurtful wrath emerged in me

    i prefer to submit :3

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    need to be someones perfect little puppy and be someones pathetic shameful addiction

    ig the balance is to be different with different partners :3

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (11 children)

    ... did I give you permission to giggle?

    Here, I'll make you giggle.

    arm locks you, spins you half around, uses my shin to press on the back of one of your knees, takes you to your knees, and tickles you, not stopping for a good solid 3 minutes

    Have we learned our lesson?

    (i am of course presuming we've already set up safe words here)

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

    Haha oh no I am feeling particularly bratty 😅

    I have learned no lesson so long as I can still breathe

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (9 children)

    ... Well, then it sounds like you need to be not able to breathe very well.

    Maybe by stuffing your mouth full of... a lesson, that will discipline you.

    And, you are already on your knees.

    ... what say you?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

    ... tsk tsk.

    You still don't have permission to giggle.

    pivots the rear arm lock to take you down to your back, as I move from behind you, to crawling/mounting over top of you. My forearm now pins your locked arm to ground, i am straddling your waist

    ... It's simple.

    You just have to ask permission.

    Let's see if you can.

    commence passionate liplock and tongue jousting

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Oh my, this is a public forum and I am on main 👀

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (5 children)

    Did I... break your concentration?

    ... make you forget where you were, what you were doing?

    hahahahaha!

    ... and I literally have not even laid a finger on you.

    You called for an example of switch as dom.

    I... hope I have met, and demonstrated up to, your expectations.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Oh yes, you are lovely ❤️

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    See now, genuienly...

    Having this publically:

    Nothing actually happened with any 'naughty bits'.

    Its not even stated or perhaps even implied that either of us are even nude.

    I tickled and kissed you, and you mostly giggled, hahah!

    SFW? NSFW?

    Is the eroticism, then, primarily in... that I was essentially able to manipulate you, in a pleasant way?

    Well then, the demonstration of what you originally briefly described is now explicit, and can thus serve as an example to, or teach others.

    Thank you, for indulging me, in this uh... educational excercise.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    So being a top is basically like being a D&D DM then?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    It's the noble task. Know the rules, make the adventure and give them the imaginary time of their lives, so you can imagine being among them.

    (And you kinda are tbh, those skeletons and goblins are nothing but a boogieman disguise for the unseen member of the gang).

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I'm almost certain I'm just going to die alone. There is no top. There is no bottom. There is just forward.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Tie them up in front of a computer until they've written a 3 page essay giving constructive feedback about their experience thus far.

    Bonus points if a shock collar is around their leg setting off whenever they make a typo.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago*

    I feel this sooooo hard

    I need all the information on how what I am doing is being received, thank you
    Thankfully my partner/sub is pretty good at it

    also part of it is I'm pretty sure I am a service dom/(and top? idk) and I enjoy maximizing and optimizing my partner's pleasure...

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Agreed. A sub that... basically doesn't communicate, at all?

    Honestly, infuriating, genuinely not enjoyable, at least to me personally.

    There may be a few people who want to fuck an actual 'not a person' slave... not me.

    But also... you can actually punish that.

    Denial.

    If you ... require... communication... do not reward the lack of it.

    If you just let them get away with their poor behavior... well you're not topping/domming very well, now are you?

    At that point you're basically a service top, who is also expected to read minds.

    There are different ... preferences and styles here, people define these terms somewhat differently... not trying to broadly knock any of them, but... yeah you're not really in control, if you're the one doing all the physical and mental work, now are you? That's at least how I see it.

    Actually require them to answer questions with more complex answers than 'yes/no', otherwise, literally sit there and twiddle your thumbs.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago* (13 children)

    I've been told I'm the last actual top.

    I've had numerous surgeries on my booty, its not a place anyone is allowed to go for good reason. Already have enough fucking issues down there.

    Anyway, it would be nice to meet a bottom who is okay with this Shrek-looking motherfucker someday.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    if only.

    edit: I hate my own brain, I wish compliments didn't always make me feel worse.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Do you top because you want to top, or because you have to? Like if all the booty complications didn't exist, what would you want the most?

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

    Fair question, I also want to top, but I've also run across women so beautiful that I'd turn to bottoming just to be with them.

    Edit: to be clear I am really just lonely and desperate more than anything

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Bottoming doesn't require anal, btw. There are many, many ways to be submissive.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Oh i think we're talking two different bottoms here, I am not speaking dom/sub bottom. I don't really dig the dynamic, I'm a cuddler who likes to make people feel good, more of a hedonist than anything.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Same, tho I don't think of the typical stuff when the topic of dom and sub come up. That is making ppl feel good as far as I'm concerned, its why as much of a bottom as I am, I like to top as well. I wanna make ppl feel good :3

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    Third option: Power Bottom

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    Any bottoms out there who do more than starfish wya?!

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    I'll die a bottom >:)

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    This is kind of the opposite for me.

    When I was younger I used to switch, but really always preferred being a bottom.

    Nowadays I just wanna be a sub; If someone doesn't like that I can find another woman who will.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

    im second- or think im second. i wanna be second. i wanna make others feel good


    cuz thats a really special feeling.

    edit: ALSO!!! hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i wonder if this relates to someone hHmMMMMMmMmmmMm... that likely wasnt intentioned (I don't mean myself)

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)
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    whaaaat well now I'm wondering who u were addressing with this cuz I dont think we are thinking of the same person..... maybe.

    you aren't talking about Orange, are you?...

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Yes, it does relate to orange, but not entirely. They're a dom at heart who could only really sub for someone stronger than them, but still they still desire to be dominated.

    Also, I'm happy you admit that orange is a specific person :3

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    oh ummmm.... I did admit it in matrix chat, they were there too and even, completely coincidentally said, that if they at some point should show up in a comic, theyd wanna be rainbow colored. so i... didnt want to make the connection too obvious and stayed vaguer about the whole thing. thats also why I leaned in so hard about Lilacs sadness, cuz if the connection were clearer... well that would sound like I was being hurt, which is false... I'm overlapping, yesyes.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    I’m actively transforming as we speak

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    kinda me :3

    except that i dont do it the way i wanna recieve it i do it the way the one recieving wants

    i just wanna make my partners happy >w<

    im a subservient people-pleasing puppy :3

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    I feel seen. I rarely switch and if I do, I know there are some thing that I like and try on my partner and I know that gets them going because it does for me (well I'm mostly right about that, at least to the 2 sexual partners I've ever had.).

    Never met someone who is fully top though and couldn't experience it for now.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

    you either die a child or grow old enough to treat your child the way you would have liked to be treated... if u feel like it. I know many peeps here hate children.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    I'm assuming the word is supposed to be peeps and not pedos. I hope you don't know many pedos.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago*

    yes, i meant like ones literal children, as in, you are a parent.

    if I knew pedos, I wouldnt mind much, maybe try and get them on a better path with things or help them find help.

    EIDT: whoops, yea ur right, it really said "peeos", fair, thats my bad. fixed it, thanks for pointing it out ~

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    I topped from below. Partners told me what they wanted done to them, and I did it to them.

    We called it negotiation but I knew what it really was.

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