Who the fuck bothers to post fake images on birding websites?
The whole fucking point of birding is enjoying seeing the birds. Taking photos of birds is difficult and satisfying.
Posting fake bird photos is fucking stupid.
Who the fuck bothers to post fake images on birding websites?
The whole fucking point of birding is enjoying seeing the birds. Taking photos of birds is difficult and satisfying.
Posting fake bird photos is fucking stupid.
A lot of users here seem to be under the misconception that these are 100% AI generated images.
The problem isn't really with that as the article states that this is an issue with using AI in the editing process:
Outright hoaxes remain rare and are often easy to spot, said Lees – nobody is falling for a toucan sighting in Siberia – but he says birders often use AI to edit and improve an image, and the algorithm can then introduce parts from different bird species to create the new image.
It's also worth noting that some phones allow you to zoom in beyond your camera's normal capabilities by using AI to enhance the picture. With some algorithms this might not be an issue, but if it's using a model that's been trained by some animal/object database then this can introduce innaccuracies that would cause problems for researchers trying to keep their database clean.
This was a whole thing with Samsung phones replacing the moon with a fake one in their telephoto images... I hate how much processing is going into phone images now.
You need a real camera if you want real pictures. The optical zoom on a phone camera is only a couple times magnification.
I actually did buy a Sony mirrorless camera several years ago when I was getting unhappy with the quality of my phone camera, right around the time the aggressive denoising tech was introduced. It made all the leaves in my forest photos turn into a smeary mess, not much different from an AI image.
These photos were 6 years apart, but I bought the nice camera shortly after the first photo.
Galaxy S10 vs Sony A9 straight off the camera, similar shutter speeds, but different weather.

First we had Merlin Appholes who would submit misidentified and similar sounds as "sightings", but Cornell tightened the tolerances on the recognition model.
Now this. But to be fair, even before AI there was a subset of "birders" who loved to exagerrate via ignorance. Cardinal = scarlet tanager (it's red), american robin = baltimore oriole (duh, orange), red-winged blackbird = Bobolink (it says this meadow has Bobolinks, therefore, any large bird on grass = bobolink), and so on.
the photographer had asked an AI platform to make the picture “look better”

I’m waiting for AI to delete the sum of internet accessible human knowledge.
"AI" birds aren't real!! /s
I have used crowd collected data for research. You have to curate each picture carefully and cannot trust labels, there are many erroneous identifications.
Maybe if you have access to pre-curated you can trust it a bit, but if you are a researcher and use images from these websites without curation you are already doing it wrong...
AI altered images doesn't change things too much, it probably just increases the numbers of errors that already existed...
The “failure mode” of AI editing is different though.
Humans (I guess) might mislabel something or take a bad shot. If they try to touch it up “traditionally” they could mess up the coloration at most.
But with AI editing, now you have to watch out for fine details you’d normally use for identification being completely, convincingly fabricated, as the article points out, with altruistic intent from the user (who’s just trying to submit data that looks alright)
The solution is global AI literacy; but that’s not going so well.
For "AI editing", I don't have much of a problem if a model was trained to tweak the settings in something like Darktable to achieve a good baseline to start with. However, for contributing to research like this, I draw the line when models start generating their own pixels and overwriting the original image.
Hopefully iNaturalist and other similar groups start to look at the metadata of submitted images to help warn/educate end users about this problem. That would at least help with the AI literacy issue. Those metadata tags are already being placed there by the most popularly used tools.
I'd argue that AI does change things:
Lees points to the example of a false sighting of a red-winged blackbird in central Brazil, which is usually found in North America and had never been seen in this area of Brazil until the reported sighting. The bird was, in fact, an epaulet oriole – a common new world bird species – but the photographer had asked an AI platform to make the picture “look better”, which is when parts of the red-winged blackbird were added, resulting in the false sighting.
This is going to be more problematic for less photographed birds.
The more unique the bird, in terms of internet pictures, the more it's going to be changed with AI.
Which means you're far more likely to see a common bird in the US or the EU appear somewhere else.
Much less likely for AI to add some crazy unique rainforest bird to a park in LA.
Users can create high-quality fake images in seconds – or enhance a photograph by asking the AI to remove a branch or leaf that might be obscuring part of the subject, which can inadvertently introduce significant changes.
Using AI even to edit an existing photo turns it into a piece of fiction; better to either accept a degree of imperfection or just take a few photos and pick one's favorite.
Arguably human editing is the same, why even make a distinction?
I appreciate when the photographer is forthright with it being an edit if they remove a branch/leaf/blade of grass, especially if they still share the original.
Any post processing is altering the original, and anything AI can do to a photo was done by hand in the past, including adding or removing subjects. I agree with you it doesn't so much matter the method of alternation, it's still the person presenting the image that is responsible for its credibility.
I also agree with the article that people uploading data to a crowdsourcing platform that is used by people trying to legitimately track animals to protect them is poisoning the well for people that are trying to do important work. A ton of resource is poorly funded, and having reliable volunteers is priceless. If people start throwing in made up datapoints, that takes a toll on real organisms. But then do you limit who can contribute, potentially excluding crucial photos? It just makes things a mess for everyone if people start becoming dishonest.
Depends on what kind of editing, really. Brightening, cropping, rotating, etc. an image is part of the art creation process; adding or removing objects is falsifying reality. Doesn't matter if AI is involved or not.
Using AI for de-noising and upscaling is pretty normal these days.
And that's terrible. Imagine seeing a detail in a picture of a bird taken with off-the-shelf components and not being able to know whether that detail was hallucinated by denoising software. Unless that image is accompanied by the full weights of the specific AI version that did the operation as well as the random seed used for its stochastic elements, there is no way to double-check.
There isn't even a guarantee that these modifications will be uniform. What's stopping an oh-so-helpful postprocessing software engineer from using AI vision to determine what the objects of the image are and then handing that information over to the upscaling algorithm to fill the detail with context-dependent hallucinations? Like, if the AI thinks it's looking at a bird, it'll fill the space with generic bird feather texture that might not fit to the bird in question at all.
So you couldn't even come up with an ad-hoc postprocessing step that replaces AI slop with noise because the AI slop is trying camouflage itself as realistic. The only scientific option is to nuke all data about how the image looks below a certain level of detail, effectively blurring it until the AI slop is invisible. This is way worse than whatever sort of blurriness the AI is trying to correct.
And using AI to redraw part of the image is even worse. You can't even blur the image to the point you're sure there are no hallucinations, the entire image is a fiction inspired by the image that hit the camera, which is now lost. Features at any scale could be made up, the result of the AI hallucinating something in place of an obstruction.
Because AI edits are far easier and quicker for most people than Photoshop, with the end result being worsened by slop generated to fill the space of cropped out elements.
But Ai can also do it “correctly”, and humans can also do a terrible photoshop job, you need to be skilled to be able to use it correctly. It also has a host of automated correction tools, which is indistinguishable from Ai.
Ai isn’t the problem with this issue, it’s the editing itself. This is just gonna make the rest of the issues come more to the forefront, they aren’t going to allow human editing and not Ai, that would just be going backwards.
You say to accept imperfection, but a particular type of editing would be okay? That’s hypocrisy.
When a human edits a photo, there are artistic decisions being made, even for someone who's never used a photo editor before. When AI does it, it's slop. The human can attempt to recreate unique things they saw in the bird. AI makes up whatever without reason or thought.
Not that I disagree about AI outputting slop that doesn't match reality, but when the images are needed for scientific purposes, people shouldn't be trying to 'recreate' anything—whether themselves or with AI—but instead take photographs with that content there in the first place.
Bro just post the picture you actually took, that represents the experience you actually had. I don't really understand the way it feels like many relate to photos. It feels like many people want the photo to be better than the actual experience, rather than something that represents the experience even if the photo is flawed
I can somehow relate to the issue. I am NOT a photographer, I can’t even adjust focus on non-phone cameras for a family picture. But when I made the yearly family photo calendar, Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom had easily accessible functions to make the calendar pop more (five to ten years ago). Now, I can see the attraction to ”clarifying” tools, but just as any other applications in society, we need to view this more critically and not just be amazed by how much more AI slop makes our work pop . We will always be amazed by something that seems like unreal or surreal.
I naively never realised how this would expand to research beyond our shallow social media.
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