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Netflix is just as guilty, but I hate how streaming companies do this (dubvee.org)
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[–] 79 points 3 months ago (12 children)

They're both right. Syfy abandoned their baby. Amazon took it in, supported it through school, and then kicked it out at 18 before it could go to college. (Last books).

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    I hope someday we get a high budget remake with a lot better cgi, make the belters look like belters ya know. And adapt the last books in the series as well.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I just want them to finish the fucking show. They won't even give us that.

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Fair, and accurate.

    I guess my gripe is mainly semantic in that it's definitely not an original production by the second production company. Streaming companies tack on "original" or "original series" when they only either took over (Amazon and The Expanse) or just have the rights to stream it on their platform (Netflix with lots of shows they definitely didn't produce).

    If they'd simply had the title card say "An Amazon Production" I'd be fine with it.

    This concludes my Nerd Rage TED Talk.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Wasn't it an Amazon Original for the later seasons?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Seasons 4-6, I believe. My gripe is just them calling it an "original" of theirs.

    For comparison, Hulu did a similar move for The Orville for its 3rd season. But instead of calling it a "Hulu Original" the title says "Hulu presents".

    Edit: Nevermind, I was wrong. Hulu is actually worse lol. "Hulu presents...a Hulu Original...A 20th Century Production...The Orville: New Horizons". Though they did run the show with a new name (New Horizons) so maybe that does count as an original production.

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    • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    Ah! the musk method.

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    [–] 17 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    And it's not original to either of them, it's based on a book series.

    If you were a TV watcher, I bet it felt like betrayal when the show went to online streaming. I haven't been a TV watcher since years started with "19", so I first heard about The Expanse when Amazon took it over (and were streaming the whole thing).

    I think what Stargate SG-1 did was way more disingenuous. The first episode was R-rated with nudity, profanity, and violence to match. From the second episode on it was strictly PG. (The original Stargate film was PG-13.) So this was all a bit weird. (Nothing against SG-1, it's actually a fine series.)

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    To be fair, a lot of shows do this when they're looking for a home initially

    The Walking Dead was pitched first to HBO and the first episode and Season 1 were more geared towards being on HBO. (season one is the only time the super no no racist hard r was used) Allegedly HBO would have kept Frank Durabont and his vision for TWD would have continued instead of being fired and replaced with Charlie Adlard

    HBO also passed on Breaking Bad and Mad Men too (Jesus Christ did they fire the exec who said no to both of these??)

    I looked up the your Stargate SG1 compliant and it's because it was in Showtime but moved very quickly to Sci-Fi. Apparently Showtime forced them to participate in the R rated content (nudity) and the producers hated it

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    HBO and Showtime do the nudity in the first episode/season thing a lot. Even Netflix started doing it with things like Orange is the New Black. It’s always been weird to me that people might be so thirsty in a world with such ready access to porn that it apparently helps the shows ratings.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I worked with an older man whose wife kept him on a tight leash, including monitoring Internet activity. It would be hard for him to get access to porn that his wife didn't know about and she would be very unhappy if he accessed it.

    These kinds of shows would be perfect for him.

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    • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    Thanks for reminding me to continue watching the expanse. I’ll finish it… one day…

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    [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    It's the new economy, just buy something and put your name on it, it's what the POS in chief does so why not. The makers in this economy get fucked every time

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    [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    i had the same feeling when i saw my first "netflix original".

    but after a few and nobody is fact checking, i just ignore it. it is original to netflix i guess. jeniuses.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Maybe it's a country/market "original"?

    I had to think, but the few times I remember seeing "Netflix Original" for shows that I knew 100% were not original to Netflix, they were Canadian shows. Pretty sure they were Schitt's Creek, Continuum, and/or Orphan Black. Maybe Netflix was the only service carrying them in the US and that allowed them to call it an "original" with a straight face?

    At least with Black Mirror, Netflix is producing them now. It's not "original" to them (like The Expanse wasn't original to Amazon) but at least they have an actual stake in it.

    But yeah, I just ignore it lol.

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    • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    great show

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    [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Pitty they never finished it.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    They're just going to wait 30 years to finish it, to be consistent with the book timeline.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah but they got what would be magical health care there. None of us are gonna be looking 40 in our 70s. I dont even think it needs a reboot except for alex. He needs to br brought back for sure, but the slow is just different enough and pretty close just to continue.

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    • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Is The Expanse really as good as people say? Like I've heard that it's the best sci-fi for the last 2-3 decades, on par if not noticeably better than Battlestar Galactica (though I have no idea if that review took into account the context of the time period it was released in, when we were all thinking through whether e.g. literal torture was morally ethical or not if it would serve our ends, i.e. Guantanamo). Then again, I am so glad that I never watched Lost, or Game of Thrones, which did not live up to their initial hype, unlike e.g. Breaking Bad that truly was just a masterpiece of craftsmanship (not mere human-made slop churned out to make a quick buck). But does The Expanse, do you think?

    Also, if it is still being made, should I wait for it to be finished?

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    [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    That show was low rent garbage anyway

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