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[–] 253 points 3 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 189 points 3 months ago (39 children)

    GTA: San Andreas and Cyberpunk 2077 for anyone wondering (like me)

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  • [–] 58 points 3 months ago* (37 children)

    And for any unaware

    SA can mean Sexual Assault

    CP is sometimes used as an acronym for Child Rape Media but I don't think its very fitting, personally.

    Another Acronym thats better is CSAM but honestly why are we even abbreviating it at all?

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  • [–] 119 points 3 months ago (36 children)

    I thought "CP" was "Child Pornography"

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    It is. It's not the preferred term for that stuff anymore. But anyone who's been seeing that used as the abbreviation for all those years before they came up with CSAM is going to recognize it as that.

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  • [+] -52 points 3 months ago (34 children)
  • [–] 49 points 3 months ago* (20 children)

    An acronym for "Child Rape Media" would be CRM, possibly pronounced "kerm" or "krum." Either way, it wouldn't even be the correct initialism, since those aren't even the same letters as "CP."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    it implies consent

    It absolutely does not. This is what absolutely drives me fucking crazy about this, that not a single person who makes this assertion has actually looked up the definition.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    CSAM is more accurate as H2O is more accurate instead of water or NaCl is for salt. Doesn't mean that you have to use it, and when the word pornography is used after the word child, everyone who is sane should know that it's wrong

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Then they could have said that. That's literally not what they said.

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  • [+] -26 points 3 months ago* (8 children)

    All Child Pornography is Child Rape Media, so CP is an acronym for it.

    A difference without distinction.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    Nowadays CP is deprecated since pornography implies consent, and as you have already implied kids legally can't you are right in saying that it's rape, but also it can't be pornography. Anyway, the modern term is CSAM, children sexual abuse material.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    If you pretend not to understand how acronyms works in order to signal that you believe all CP is abuse, that makes it seem like maybe you don’t actually think all CP is abuse. A “the lady doth protest too much” situation.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    There is nothing about consent in the definition of the term "pornography". "CP" doesn't imply thinking it is okay, and "CSAM" is for virtue-signaling losers who probably also correct "homeless" to "unhoused" because they think that's the same thing as helping.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I always just assumed CSAM was people trying to exclude illustrated kiddie porn from the definition since no sexual assault takes place.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    I think the main issue is that CP kind of normalizes it and associates it with regular porn while CSAM makes it clear how bad it is.

    I do mostly agree that it doesn't really matter much which is used and unhoused does annoy me a bit. It's bothersome being corrected I guess but it's nothing to get mad about either tbh.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Literally noone in the history of the world thinks that you can normalise child porn by calling it child porn. But some people, faced with the difficulty of making a real difference, seize in the only thing they feel they can control: other people's language.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    The ones advocating for it are child protection agencies, not randos on the internet with no control.

    I found it annoying as well at first but it's easy to get used too. I don't see the harm in it.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Because firstly, while they can talk how they like as long as it makes sense, they want to demonstrate how pure and holy they are by berating everyone not offering their edicts. And secondly because the literal meaning doesn't cover everything they want to apply it to. Drawn child porn is not "child sexual assault material" but they still want to use the same term, because for them purity tests are more important than making sense.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Nobody is labeling lolicon stuff as csam.

    I think you are looking too deep into it. All I know is that experts who have made it their life's work catching predators want us to use CSAM and think it might have an effect, I'm not going to give people grief over using it.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Nobody is labeling lolicon stuff as csam.

    I see it most times this comes up.

    I’m not going to give people grief over using it.

    Sure. But I'm not going to take grief for not using it, nor omit an eye-rolling comment when someone else gets grief.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Boy I sure hope any porn I see was consensual, else it isn't porn but an illegal rape video wtf.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, yes that's what it would be if it's not consensual? Major self-report here, bud.

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    Truly the two of the greatest games in gaming history.

    Its funny how now the giant companies with infinte money just make 20 years old games but with unreal graphics. I wonder, how the advances in gamedev technlogy will turn out for indie devs in same 20 years.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Godot and Unreal are both improving in different directions but honestly I don't think small crews will be any less limited by their time needed to create than they are now.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I would like to think a lot. Just because some are going this route doesn't mean all of them are. I have played a lot of games with some new game mechanics that werent around and it will continue to happen.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 months ago* (23 children)

    Acronym puns aside. I just don't get it, to me it feels like there were no groundbreaking or even major breakthroughs in gaming ever since, like what, 2011? Alright, 2015.

    85-95? Revolutionizing

    95-05? Revolutionizing

    05-15? Revolutionizing

    15-now? ???? ?????????? Eh!!???!!!???

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Depends where you're looking and how you define "Revolution"; even in those earlier eras, they were just advancements of techniques that had previously been invented but were impractical til that point.

    So I'd say VR hardware has had a revolution during the that time.
    Environmental destruction (real and virtual lol)
    Real time ray tracing

    It's hard to really discuss without knowing the kinds of things you found revolutionising in those eras.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It takes a little over 10 years to recognize that a game (or anything really) was revolutionary. You have to wait until all of the chaff has been forgotten, leaving only the revolutionary games behind.

    Here are some of my top picks for what folks will look back on when they right the 2025-2035 had no good games version of your post.

    Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. Vampire survivors. Hades. Elden Ring. Disco Elysium.

    And one which will probably be a cult classic/sleeper hit: Return of the Obra Dinn.

    Just for a start.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    One could argue that ray tracing is the current item, but unfortunately no one has been able to truly maximize the quality or performance…

    Cp2077 with the godlike ray tracing does look really good, but requires a ridiculous setup to see it.

    I would also suggest frame gen or scaling as another new improvement. Being able to basically realtime render a lower resolution and scale it (non-ML based) is an incredible engineering feat.

    Frame gen does have a (small) place as well. There are legitimate reasons to use it to improve performance. With dedicated hardware it becomes an easy way to improve FPS (some) on lower end hardware.

    2015-present may not have had such tectonic shifts, but in a lot of ways, we can now do more with less and fine tune an experience we enjoy.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I'd say the last big "revolutionizing" thing in gaming was the release of the Nintendo Switch in 2017. All of the current handhelds owe their success to the Switch.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    You... you do realize we were handheld gaming long before the Switch, right? Game Boy, Game Gear, Sega Nomad, GBA, NDS, PSP, 3DS, Vita, plus emulation handhelds have been around since the early 2010s, and I've personally been gaming with 7" and 8" tablets with telescopic controllers since 2013.

    How exactly do all current handhelds owe their success to the Switch?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    I'm old enough that I still have my original Game Boy that I got as a kid in elementary school, so I have been playing on handhelds for decades.

    The Switch was the first "Flagship" handheld meant to compete with home consoles. It proved that there was a market for such a device, then the Steam Deck capitalized hard and the rest is history.

    Sure, you can split hairs & say that the Nomad was technically a handheld Genesis, or get even more technical and say that the Game Gear was a handheld Master System, but neither one took over the market like the Switch. Hell, I've never seen a Nomad outside of a retro game store, it's basically a rounding error in market share percentage just below the Atari Lynx.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    I think it's more so because it took a long time to figure out the basics, and now we have them to build further upon. Take cars, for example. Can you think of any revolutionary cars from recent years? The first ever cars were revolutionary. The Ford model T was revolutionary because of its assembly and availability to the masses. The first few hybrids and EVs could also be seen as such. But other than that? Nah.

    Perhaps a car enthusiast would like to correct me, that's fine. I admit I know very little when it comes to cars. But this is my perception at least.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Major things for me are the rise of kernel anti cheat (revolutions don't have to be good), and the rise of linux gaming--both the steam deck and linux gaming in general (the solution to both MS and a passive prevention of kernel level bs). Around 2015, barely any games ran on linux, but today most do unless they have that kernel level anti-cheat or the makers specifically wanted to exclude linux users.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Its pretty good, just that it's not affordable to the peasants like us who cant run stuff in 8k. And even if we could, we can't expect devs to optimize for 8k hardware pathtracing ai assisted npc interactions with a splash of god's very own jizz.

    I am impatient however for vr to catch up it doesnt make sense to make such immersive worlds to just project it on a flat screen with the tech we have now.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (5 children)

    the "revolutionary" breakthroughs, which i experienced (so it's subjective) we're hl1 for graphics and hl2 for it's physics engine. everything else felt like gradual improvements of those.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    ok, i should add that I'm not playing any so-called AAA games for a decade or two. they somehow always turned out to be a waste ;)

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You owe it to yourself to borrow an oculus from a 14 year old and play Alyx.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    yeah i was thinking to look into it. hl3, aka alyx sounds as much a tech demo as the two predecessors.

    just besides the price it feels to much like something that you buy, try out, have fun and leave in the shelf because it's to much hassle to set up each time you wanna play sth.

    do you have experience with it?

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago*

    This is a 16 year gap, not 20. And 20 years before San Andreas, Super Mario Bros. wasn't even out yet.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    Experiencing the original Donkey Kong lcd handheld as a child and TLOU as an adult is pretty amazing

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Im glad they appreciate the differences.

    I can clearly see that one is superior to the other, but it doesnt feel like 16 years worth of upgrades. They dont look different enough to me.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Go back another 20 years and you'll find Manic Miner & Horace goes skiing...wait that's a little early... Donkey Kong Jr & Chopper Command were released in 1982. 80s to 90s probably had the biggest step up, no doubt due to the introduction of consoles.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah theyre a bit before my time but I played a lot on my dad's hoard. I still remember how excited he was showing off how many colours you could have on screen on donkey Kong country.

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