you ain't lived till you been to the democratic people's republic of north korea

I can see your imminent ban in my crystal ball.

What a brave take!

I met couple of Chinese who acknowledge the party is tyrannical but they avoid delving deeper into politics. Despite having emigrated, it's a learned response I guess for many Chinese not to talk about politics.

Yep. Ate a 3 day ban recently from /c/memes for exactly that before I realized I was on lemmy.ml/c/memes.

China is awesome. Its people are awesome. Its philosophy/culture is great. Its government is doing some awesome things.

The notion that shame should be felt over that view is absurd.

That doesn’t mean they don’t have problems.

One can admire/envy/enjoy China and acknowledge they are an authoritarian state, have some worrying cultural issues, a strongman leader, a bloody history, censored discourse and so on.

These views aren’t mutually exclusive.

And as for the “western imperialist” rhetoric, that has precisely nothing to do with China’s problems. It’s irrelevant whataboutism.

And it’s especially ironic given most of it on Lemmy is spouted from users in western nations.

For reference: Lemmy.ml is banned in China.

a red flag

Nice

I dunno it's pretty easy to think China has some really cool things but also acknowledge it's a terrible place

This is why I personally like to use the cool shit Yugoslavia did. Obscure by western standards and the only ones who get weird about it are Serbs.

The point is not that you need to unquestioningly think that China is the most evil country on earth. The point is that there absolutely are a notable subset of leftists (just wander over to .ml if you want to find them) who will dismiss literally any criticism of China as "Western propaganda" and basically act like they're absolute paragons of good. Those are the people being called out here.

Turns out geopolitics isn't simple.

Greetings from Hanoi. China kills Vietnamese and Philippine fisherman and other mariners each year using their paramilitary shadow fleet. China is also a big place and the difference between non-rich in a developed province and non-rich in the rural provinces is extreme. In the last decade, the size of the middle class in places like Shanghai has shrunk dramatically and was arguably never even on par with similar level workers in the USA.

slightly better than the US

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides

BYD.

Capitalists need number go up no matter the borders.

No, it's a federated platform. No single person or organization "runs" the whole thing.