A trans teen withdrew from the girls’ division of an Irish Dance contest in Florida after the organizers were pressured by state officials to kick her out. However, it is unclear whether the girl’s participation in the competition would have actually violated any law.

“No young person should become the center of a political fight simply because they want to participate in the activities they love,” said Public Policy Manager for Equality Florida Quinn Diaz in a statement. “At a time when Florida is competing to attract visitors, talent, and major events from around the world, the question for our leaders is simple: will we send a message that our doors are closed, that ours is only a state for some? Or will we make it clear that everyone is welcome here?”

The Irish dance contest is governed by the Irish Dance Teachers’ Association of North America (IDTANA). That organization has trans-inclusive policies that allow competitors to decide how they compete. They have previously defended those policies, and the community has supported that move, including by setting up a petition to the Dublin-based governing body, An Coimisiún le Rincí Gaelacha (CLRG), to voice their unequivocal support for the inclusion of trans dancers.

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[–] 92 points 4 months ago (13 children)

This is what they want. They want trans people to just disappear. And it's blatantly sexist as well. You're telling all these girls that they can't dance better than a biological male? Florida continues to be just the worst.

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  • [–] [S] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

    They want trans people to just disappear.

    Them:

    Their chant:

    Jews will not replace us!

    Those they include with Jews:

    Their basis of drumming up support from the masses for this:

    If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

    -Leviticus 20:13

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Leviticus 20:13 actually means no butt stuff with women and no vaginal stuff with men. It also originally intended missionary only for man on woman and saving doggy style for man on man, but as long as you don't have overlapping sexual acts and positions for the straight stuff and the gay stuff you are in the clear.

    It's a continuation of the whole "no mixed fabrics" thing and is part of God's autism expression along with foods not touching on the plate.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    That's kind of a crazy take. How does one come to that opinion given the very simple and direct text?

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Seems like a straightforward interpretation to me. They could have just said "If a man has sexual relations with a man, both of them have done what is detestable", but they chose to add the "as one does with a woman" bit.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago

    They want trans people to just disappear

    No. They want a political distraction so you don't notice that both parties support the corporate agenda equally.

    The trans community is (sadly) just collateral damage. It could just as easily be hippies, Jews, juggalos, Justin Timberlake fans etc.

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    [–] 29 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Is this small government?

    Or is it freedom?

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Making a girls only dance contest in the first place seem kinda weird to me

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    lamo, they really have nothing better to do. how does this even help their own cause?

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    how does this even help their own cause?

    God forbid some young people might actually meet a trans person (or some other "othered" person) and think they're okay, and through this casual interaction and others like them coming to realize that, when it comes to inborn characteristics, people are all more alike than we are different.

    If some statement or action separates groups and creates divisions between individuals, it helps their own cause, which is to control the populace by any means possible.

    And they do like 'em young, in all sorts of ways, hence the extreme focus on young people charting an independent course, even a life path born of necessity such as being gay or trans. If you're gay or trans, you are already not going to fit into the little box they want to trap you in, just by default. You may force yourself to fit it, but at what cost? So you make your own way, and they don't want the other kids seeing that and thinking, hey, I could make my own way too.

    Gay and trans kids prove to those who get to know them that there are many valid life paths, many different ways of making a good life for yourself that do not involve the usual narrative of getting married and having kids, and often that you can and will escape a family of origin that does not accept you as you are. That frightens authoritarians and controllers, a lot.

    You know what else scares the bejeebus out of them? People accepting other people, talking with each other as their equals, and finding out they have the same shared values.

    Plus, if they shut down a dance they think it reminds everybody of who's in charge, something a small town dictator will never pass up.

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  • [+] 10 points 4 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago*

    I don't think that 2nd amendment thing many Americans are so proud of actually works.
    Seems to me authorities and politicians are persecuting vulnerable minorities without consequence.
    And the 2nd amendment is mostly used for schools shootings and other crimes.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Buncha killjoy bullies. I hope they get everything they deserve in life.

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    Who cares what bigots think? What does it matter whether they're competing or not?

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    If a person wants to exclude others from their "space" just because those others are trans, or gay, or whatever, then that person needs to shut the fuck up and deal with the problem in their own head. Because that's where the problem really is and the rest of us shouldn't have to deal with their bigoted bullshit.

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    No, opposition to segregation isn't a minority opinion. There are no 'Whites only" safe spaces that are socially acceptable anymore, and you're disgusting for wanting the equivalent of that.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    In 1,000 BCE when we were sending women who were on their periods into the woods so that they wouldn't dirty the rest of the tribe I guess. It's 2026. Gender is a social construct. "gendered spaces" has never been a majority opinion thing in history, and every society has had periods of unisex equality and periods of extreme segregation.

    Let's not bring back the extreme segregation when we're actually pretty close to abolition of such incredible bigotry and stupidity.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    And you're the one that brought up men. No part of this article or discussion was about men specifically. This is why gender education and eventual abolition is important, so bigots like you can understand what the word means.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    It gets difficult and isn't as easy as people like to think. Where where they in transitioning. Did they still gave a penis? I mean people not wanting someone with a penis changing in the Chang room with the girls in is going to be a hard sell for a lot of people.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I mean people not wanting someone with a penis changing in the Chang room with the girls in is going to be a hard sell for a lot of people.

    Anyone that thinks this is a problem is a pervert. Genuinely porn brained pervert. I get that Americans have been morally repressed for their entire existence, I mean their founding members were puritans who thought genocide was just fine but a woman showing their ankles needs to be put to death, but anyone who thinks the human body is inherently sexual or there is anything possibly sexual about changing in a locker room with mixed sexes versus single sexes is ridiculously perverted and repressed about their perversion.

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    Weird how one might swap out one equal variable for another to see if the equation makes more or less sense to a person that has not followed logic into their current position.

    $Immutable_Characteristic deserves an exclusionary safe space and $Immutable_Characteristic_Variant shouldn't have a say.

    If you can fill in those variables with some equal thing and it turns into a bigoted statement, congrats, the original statement was bigoted as well. "Whites deserve an exclusionary safe space and Blacks shouldn't have a say." is equal to "Little people deserve an exclusionary safe space and average height people shouldn't have a say." is equal to "Straights deserve an exclusionary safe space and gays shouldn't have a say." is equal to "Women deserve an exclusionary safe space and men shouldn't have a say." is equal to... You get the point.

    All are equally bigoted statements.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    It's more than whataboutism, it's a completely different argument there. No, I don't particularly care about a transinclusionary 'safe space' hosted on an instance that doesn't understand intersectional inclusivity includes class. I do care about people outside instances like that advocating for segregation, especially trans exclusionary segregation like you explicitly advocated for.

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    I don't think they're okay, there's a difference between that and picking a fight with an instance owner that believes that should be so. If .world starts hosting zionism comms instead of just moderating anti-zionist sentiment, I'll just choose to block it like hilarious chaos and other such pointless right-wing instances.

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    [–] 51 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    aaand again we see that conservatives don't actually care about any "advantages" but instead just wanna be hateful. what a surprise.

    poor girl :(

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Society should not compromise at all with conservatives on trans rights.

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  • [–] 48 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    "Pressured by state officials" those fuckers should be named and shamed. Absolutely pathetic sacks of shit.

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  • [–] 36 points 4 months ago

    The trans girl biological advantage in dancing, of course... god, I hate this. Hope little sister is OK.

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    Good! The LAST thing we Want is for Kids to have FUN in Sports where they have NO Advantage whatsoever!

    -Protect The Kids TM People!

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