As someone who did defend Platner, I will not shy away from the fact I was wrong. Whether or not he has changed since he was a mercenary really is irrelevant at this point. Rapists, whether reformed or not (and I do not believe be is reformed given his statement), should not hold positions of power. Platner needs to drop out and take accountability.
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She was dating a merc with nazi tattoos, I won't shed tears for a nazi lover that found out nazis are bad.
If you're willing to date a nazi, you're a nazi too.
And it if utter bullshit that nazi killing brown people is a respectable career choice in America, but we draw the line at hurting a nazi woman.
Rape is bad
it is, but I y'all decided rape is bad and didn't give a fuck about nazi mercenaries killing brown people for money.
Because you considered a white nazi woman to be worth more than brown people.
and everyone is clutching pearls that I refuse to shed a tear that a nazi lover was hurt. but refuse to acknowledge that every single one of his supporters was a nazi supporter.
That seems like a rather narrow view of other people's opinions on this matter
Rape is bad. Nazis are bad. I think the moral is: don't date bad people if you don't want bad outcones.
Nazis are very bad. People that date Nazis do not deserve to be raped for their bad judgement.
Nobody is saying that they do... What they are saying is that one does not simply fuck a Nazi and expect good results. Like what the fuck else is there to be expected? You date a Nazi, you're it exactly going to have a great time unless you're also a Nazi I guess, but even then I doubt women are much respected in those groups.
If it's a one night stand, that's bad,
but she knew he was a nazi, she thought nazis are good, she was a nazi.
And nazi lives don't matter
Just one thing, many abusers are really good at hiding their bad parts and only showing them once a partner is more and more trapped. never being bad enough to leave, but always getting more and more power until the partner cannot easily leave.
That comment is a bit of victim blaming.
However this is not this case. he had nazi tattoos and was a mercenary, how can you go past the first two dates, or the first time sleeping with him without seeing those absolutely ginormous red flags without running away? Those aren't red flags, those are foghorns, only possibility is that she is either severely mentally challenged, or a nazi herself.
I do not blame her for getting raped. no should get raped regardless how stupid they are, I am blaming her for dating a nazi. And even if she wasn't raped, I would still blame her for dating a nazi.
I am not shaming her for being a woman, or a victim, I am shaming her for being a fucking nazi
"sexual violence against people i dont like" is not, in fact, a good position.
I try to be against being a nazi merc and to be against rape.
A LWer defending rape as long as it's someone they think deserves it.
Why are liberals such fucking disgusting pieces of shit?
We all make poor decisions and there's a chance she never knew about the tattoo or the other awful things he did isn't there?
Why are you saying that sexual abuse is okay?
I guess once you support a nazi you gotta go down with the ship
Yeah, he double downed!
Can't wait until real ❝Americans❞ compost’im.
It was always a little sus this guy was so prominent on these forums. If you put hope in him you are crushed I think that is by design.
Does this imply there are good guy mercenaries?
Abolish entryism
What a shitshow. This thread, I mean.
Yes, the guy was a proven nazi.
Yes, the woman has made many bad life choices.
Yes, the progressist white knights are a bunch of hypocrites putting the woman's life above the poor innocent brown people the guy had killed.
Yes, in numbers genocide is worse than one life's traumatic experience.
But, no, man. It's fucking disingenuous putting both in the balance against each other.
That r*** triggers a lot more than one person because it is a symbol of patriarchal oppression.
Antagonizing the (liberal) feminists in this matter alienates people we should be trying to gain for our cause.
The majority made minority of brown people needs helping hands instead of generic admonitioning.
Engels would've been disappointed, OP.
we're trying to recruit liberals? rainbow capitalists? into marxism? kay
in order to have a popular uprising of the people you have to educate the people. we don't have to exhaust ourselves recruiting unrepentant assholes, but we do have to teach well-meaning people where their actions are falling short if we're to have any hope of getting out of this
My dude, we all were born as liberals because like the bearded one said "in every epoch, the ruling ideas are the ideas of the ruling class."
How else are communists supposed to do anything if they don't reach out to the working class?
Here's a synthesis: vote planter because he's an unhinged impulsive inconsiderate violent asshole who doesn't consider others and can't or won't stop hurting everyone around him
Don't you want the people around him to be congressmen? I think hoping for a congressional tpk is a bit much, but he might get one or two, and I think that's worth your vote.
Nah libs and republicans are dancing on the grave of his campaign
For months libs were making excuses for that cunt.
Ryan Grim is still doing it. I figured he'd possibly change with this red flag but Ryan's also attacking the victim and publication.
Even Sanders endorsed him.
Agree, total bullshit.
Famous liberal Bernie Sanders
You don't get to gaslight me, the DNC was rallying behind him despite him being a mercenary with nazi tattoos. They were making excuses. And suddenly they are all surprised when it turns out he was a bad guy (to a white woman, killing brown people for money was OK)
Did the DNC endorse Platner? Last I heard he was saying the national party was not talking to him.
no they dint, they tried everything along with the gop to discredit him. they finally found that in a sudden accusation of acquataince of his. people were willing to overlook the obvious NAZI tattoos and blackwater involvement , up until the accusations came out.
A few did, most notably Bernie Sanders
Bernie is not a member of the Democratic National Committee. “A few” prominent establishment Democrats are not the same as the DNC. In any case, the idea that Platner had widespread support from liberals or establishment Democrats is just not true.
Elizabeth Warren, Ro Khanna, Ruben Gallego, Ed Markey.
Again, I question your definition of the word “liberal”
You're in an anarchist /c/… how did you end up confused as to what neoliberal praxis we are criticizing‽
People can, and should be allowed to change for the better. People often change their minds on things once they get more information and/or have time to sit with it. We should expect our politicians to do the same, and giving regular people that’ve made honest mistakes but are committed to changing for the better an honest shot is admirable.
It just so happens that in this particular case, way too many chances were given and no honest attempt to change was made.
That is 100% bullshit. and you know why?
If at any point in his life, he regretted his Nazi tattoo, then most tattoo places offer cover up of Nazi tattoos for free. He was a mercenary, he could afford laser treatment. There is absolutely zero justification for him going into politics with said tattoo. And in interviews he reminisced about being a mercenary.
People can change. but he didn't. And using 'people can change' regarding people with nazi tattoos is some gaslighting bullshit.
Well let's get more of the usual types then, let's not try to step outside the mold and adapt. Let's only ever run milquetoast neoliberals who want to tow the party line, that'll show them damn libs.
If only there was some sort of middle ground between geriatric neoliberals and Nazi rapists...
The primary for this race sucked, it was this fucking guy vs a 78 year old...
Even if this turns into a milquetoast-off, some other races look better. More progressive candidates might make it to MI Senate, WI Governor, and a bunch of House races.
What fucking monkey paw wish is that.
"I don't want milquetoast neoliberals"
gets a rapist nazi mercenary
It is fine that anyone can run, but he should have been laughed the moment anyone asked what did he do for a living, or what is that Tattoo. And never get even close to the news. Besides a local Maine headline "Maine nazi tries to run for dems, gets shamed out."
Yet he got endorsements from Warren and Sanders and others.
I stg. At that point, why not just be a Republican? You're already willing to look past rape and murder and Nazi symbolism for the sake of getting one over on those neoliberal establishment Democrats, right? Where's the fucking line, then?
Or maybe, instead of becoming indistinguishable from the right, we can try to build a political movement that actually holds itself to some kind of extremely basic standards, that doesn't just devolve into team sports where you look past all of "your guy's" flaws.
It's been disappointing seeing all the so-called left of the US form the same sort of American supremacist cult of peesonality around Platner as did MAGA around Trump.
This never happened, there was never a cult movement anything close to Trump around Platner. People were just excited for a candidate who said the right things.
The fact that he's being dropped so quickly now is proof contrary to your claim.
For democrats, Nazis are only bad when the conservatives have them.
Maine dint stand a chance with anyone left of Mills, its either her or collins. Maine needs to choose and verify thier candidates better.
There comes a point where it feels like people online are screaming at the collective will of the voters themselves. Chuck Schumer endorsed Mills, so that would have absolutely been the establishment choice. She was polling so poorly and having such a hard time raising money that she dropped out. The people wanted Platner; he was just shittily vetted. Does that suck? Yes. But clearly, the primary voters in Maine wanted someone with a similar message to what Platner brought to the table. It's just a matter of employing better investigators before someone achieves national prominence, because holy fuck what a shit show this has turned into.
WHY DO LIBERALS KEEP JOINING ANARCHIST /c/S‽ GO VANGUARD EVEN BETTER CANDIDATES THAT AREN'T EITHERS. THIS IS YOUR TIME TO JUSTIFIABLY REVOLT.

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