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[–] 85 points 4 months ago (1 child)

Thought Bubble

"Dad's laughing, but I'm about to host the most epic LAN party of my life"

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  • [–] 37 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Dear old Dad is in IT, and he explains that this is a lot more expensive than a nintendo switch.

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  • [–] 37 points 4 months ago (15 children)

    I literally asked for a network switch for my birthday a few days ago. Although it's a 16x sfp+ switch for my home fiber rollout.

    I didn't get it because it didn't go on sale and I told my mom not to. Although I suspect she didn't listen to me and got it for Christmas (it's impossible to tell her not to get a present she knows you want, and also to not spend the budget she set aside).

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    So, now you're waiting till Christmas? Or, will you end up with two of them?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Dude are u running a data center in ur basement or what lol

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    A Proxmox cluster with Ceph pretty much won't work without 10Gbps.

    It'll slowly fail and all your data will get lost. Ask me how I know.

    (Also, you need at least 4GB memory dedicated to Ceph on each node... Another compounding lesson learned)

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    If software depends on specific infrastructure to work, then it should have it as a hard requirement. Haven't tried Ceph myself, but this sounds like there's something very wrong with it conceptually or the way it's set up.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    It's more that Proxmox has a weird niche laying between both enterprise/small-medium business and also homelab infrastructure.

    Ceph is designed towards the former where 10Gbe fibre and hosts with a boatload of RAM is fairly commonplace.

    My problems were a result of not paying close enough attention to those requirements and just hoping it would work on small micro PCs with 12GB of ram.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, but even if that's the case, I would expect it 1) to refuse to run at all if something's not fit or 2) to just be bottlenecked by the network instead of making data disappear altogether.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Oh, to be fair the data disappeared because I was stupid for a different reason and proxmox upgrades were done out of order.

    I'm basically 100% to blame for the data loss, but it was impacting performance from an IO and memory perspective before I fucked it all up.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    16sfp ports is basically a single home office amount.

    You got the outside wire to firewall, firewall to router, router to your pc, wife pc, kid pc, home NAS, and home server. Maybe another one to a poe switch for cameras and doorbells too. Nine ports needed with just a basic setup.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    I also converted my gaming rig into a hypervisor.

    But I think they meant more along the lines of me running a 10gbps switch.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    Oh. That's a no brainer for anyone who regularly uses their network though? I have a 70gb music library I move around a lot for my mp3 player because I'm still playing with conversion settings. The difference between a 15 minute transfer vs a 3 minute transfer is huge if it keeps coming up. Before that it was large amounts of family vhs recordings getting moved. Platee has their own example just below me too.

    1gbps is plenty for like, the family watching Netflix or YouTube or whatever, but anyone running a homelab will eventually run into long wait times when playing around with the server and nas at just 1gbps. Maybe you don't care and just wait it out, but for me at least, part of the fun is getting new parts, and then actually seeing those parts getting used entirely. A 16 port sfp switch isn't necessarily cheap, but around 300$ means it could be this months hobby purchase without too much fuss.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Poor kid got a hand me down cisco IOS garbage fresh off the legacy rack decommissioning full of old ass Sun SPARC servers.

    At least get him something new.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    At least it's a proper Cisco one and not those shitty Linksys/SG ones.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Shitty Linksys, a Cisco brand you mean?
    Also, Cisco’s list of absolute bonkers vulnerabilities is not a good sign tbh.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    They sold Linksys to Belkin ages ago and rebranded the stuff they kept as SG.

    TBF even though they have a significant number of vulns, they are at least open about handling them unlike other vendors.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    I have a couple of 8-port Gigabit Netgear switches that have been working perfectly for about 15 years, now.

    I sort-of forget about them. They just work. It's nice.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    @The_Picard_Maneuver Or, alternately, in the 80s if your grandma had literally NO IDEA about kids' toys. (When my brother asked for a Transformer for his birthday, she called my mom asking for specs and whether he was sure this was what he wanted.)

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    “I said I wanted Switch 2!”

    “Switch 2? What’s wrong with the first one I gave you?”

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    That switch predates the switch by quite a while

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    At least your dad is not black.

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  • [–] [S] 24 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    This comment confused me until I remembered that Community scene.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Failed to load media 😢
    Edit: it works now, but what the actual copulation is that

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    I would have loved that gift as a teenager - I only had a 4port hub, which limited the people I could invite to a LAN party

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    Pretty sure this is gonna be a better investment in future and cannot be bricked by nintendo when they feel like it.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    I'm doing NetworkChuck's Summer of CCNA. I know what a switch is now :)

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    Dad trying to turn his son into a sysadmin

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    To be honest, I prefer a switch rather than a switch right now.

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    Capitalisation is lost in spoken word. Blame capitalism?

    /s

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