Frannie is a 2019 Salsa Vaya.

Steel frame with a Shimano 105 drivetrain. We roll tubeless. She typically hauls between 20 and 40 pounds of gear depending on the season. I used to ride carbon, but once I hit my 40s every ride started to hurt a little more, so I moved to steel. Unloaded, the frame weighs about 19 lbs, but it handles smooth as silk.

I would spend 8 hours a day on this thing if I didn't have a job.

Dat azzzz

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[–] 20 points 4 months ago (4 children)

My brother has a similar type of bike that he uses for almost everything for over the last 25 years.

Granted, it has had lots of maintenance over the years and it's a little bit a ship of Theseus situation with tires, brakes, chain, sprockets, etc, but the frame and wheels, steering bar etc. are still original.

Good bikes be good bikes for life

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    I have a 20-year-old Trek 4200 with about 70K miles on it. The thing is fucking immortal and it wasn't even close to being a top-end bike in 2006 (I think it cost around $500 new). Drivetrain, tires and brakes are the only things I've ever replaced, obviously many times over.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    At that age, all the wear items have worn multiple times, still having the original wheels is pretty good though. They're one of the easiest components on a bike to damage.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago

    lol, great name

    Happy Pride Weekend! 🏳️‍🌈

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    She's frantastic!

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Beauty! What kind of handlebar tape do you use?

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Thanks! It's Brooks tape (same brand as the saddle), but I'm not sure I'd recommend it unless you care more about looks than comfort, unfortunately. It's pretty thin, and doesn't offer much in the way of cushion or pad. I put it on thinking it'd enable me to ride without gloves, but it ended up having the opposite effect.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    Put on some cushion-y foam tape, then put the fancy Brooks leather tape back on over it. (Hopefully you haven't cut the Brooks tape too short, 'cause that stuff is expensive.)

    Or if not the whole bar, get some of those gel pads that cushion key areas:

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    [–] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Why did carbon hurt? Also, is there anreaons for no front basket? Looks great!

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Not OP, but I know why carbon hurts (and why it's useful!):

    Carbon is stiffer than steel. That does a lot of stuff, but two things primarily - one good, one bad.

    Good: the force you put into the pedals bends a steel frame more than it does a carbon frame. Every bit of force used to bend the frame is force that doesn't get used to push you forwards, so a stiff carbon frame is a lot faster than a bendy steel one.

    Bad: the force from the road works the same way as the force from your pedals: it also gets reduced with a bendier frame, and a stiff frame will take every bump and crack in the tarmac and put that force right into your taint.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    Hello fellow old person!

    once I hit my 40s every ride started to hurt a little more, so I moved to steel. Unloaded, the frame weighs about 19 lbs, but it handles smooth as silk.

    Was it the vibration? Because I have some crappy joints and now I'm thinking I should try some steel....

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Howdy! Sorry, thought I responded already. Carbon vs steel is night and day. There's pretty much zero energy absorbtion with carbon, so you feel every bump and crack.

    Steel, for as hard and durable as it is, has a decent amount of give. You'll still feel the bumps, but significantly less.

    If you're just looking to make your current ride more comfortable, though, that leather saddle is a massive upgrade. Seriously. It's everything.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Less comfort and more my shitty knee (which per the doctor I'm trying to keep as long as I can, but will need a replacement before my 60s guaranteed)

    I'm also considering getting electric going as a backup, in case I need to give my knee a break for a few. My longer (60+mi/100+km) rides I just can't do anymore because of it, and I am trying to think of ways I can. Right now even 25mi/40km can be a bit of a stretch, so when I do ride its only for an hour or so. I miss the long rides.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Magnificent beast!
    And (for some reason) still how a proper bike looks like in my mind :).

    Who dis?

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Nice rig! I've seen several bike tourer using these leather saddles instead of the foamy ones? What are the advantages of those? I assume they dont soak up water when driving through rain

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Those leather saddles are designed to fit to the rider and last forever. It's thick leather stretched over a steel frame. There's a break-in period of about 100 miles, and then it just fits you forever.

    The leather breathes, so you don't sweat as much, but the shock absorbtion is much better. If I hit a big bump, I'll feel it in my wrists but the rest of my body just bounces in the saddle.

    They don't like getting wet though. If I have to leave it outside in the rain I'll put a bag over it.

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    That is a top-tier name, gotta love a Steely Dan reference.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Fran Fran with that fancy saddle

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Best investment you can make if you're a frequent rider, hands down. Makes bike shorts and chamois pointless, you can ride in anything. I've had that saddle longer than I've had the bike, there's probably 10,000 buttmiles on it.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    She's a beauty.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Sick bike! How do you like the brooks saddle? I take it you're riding without padded shorts?

    Also thank you for cross posting it to the bike comm, so I could upvote it twice!

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Yep. Had a similar setup back when I had a weekly commute of 350km by bike. Plus visiting friends and grocery shopping. For the latter, I even had a trailer. Went through a number of bearings, gears, and chains over the years...

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    That's cool, it looks a little painful to use as a daily driver though ! I'll stick with city bikes (also known as a fiets) with a lower saddle and higher handlebars.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Amazing bike!

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Sick dude i really want to try bike camping someday and move to someplace that has green. I like the eyes too

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago*

    How does that kick stand work? Does it compress and fit in one of your bags? Or is there a mount that lines it up against one of the tubes?

    I like that it's not permanently fixed to the bike

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    My partner and I are into gravel, akd she's been seriously considering a steel frame.

    Also, cross post to cycling! Those communities need love.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I have a 2020 Vaya and I am convinced that the Vaya is one of the best bikes ever made. I got a Fargo last year also, and I love it just as much. The Vaya has been so many places with me, I even took it on my honeymoon to the Azores.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    It's just an absolute joy to ride, right? The Fargo looks like a beast though, how's it handle in winter?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    It sure is a joy, and as much as I love my orange red one I really like your green one a lot too.

    I have only had the Fargo for a few months now, I got it before they switched to 32” wheels, so I imagine the newer version is even more of a beast. My winter experience on the Fargo is limited mostly to commutes, but it has been extremely comfortable. It’s definitely a bit more in the ATB realm and feels more upright than the Vaya.

    I do feel like I will probably still bikepack on the Vaya. The mounts are a bit more favorable for the racks and bags that I have. My wife works for Nemo and has documented a few of our bike adventures on the Nemo blog if you’re curious to see a picture of mine. Nemo makes an awesome bikepacking tent.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Dude! That blog is awesome, y'all sound fun as hell. Good to know about the Nemo too, I've been curious about those. I tend to solo it, so I've always hammock camped when I bikepack, but it would be nice to be less tree-dependent.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Haha thank you, we do alright, my wife is pretty cool. Nemo makes great gear. The later version of that tent (used on our Nova Scotia trip) was well improved. I think they called the new fabric Osmo. Shoot me a DM if you’re interested, I might be able to sneak a 40% code from her.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Changed my bicycle to a motorbike. I love it, but I miss good old days

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    A road become one Of satchels and sun 🎶

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Looks very cool! How is steering with the bags on the sides of the front wheel?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Bluemels,brooks,froggy bag can confirm sweet ride

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago
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    [–] 12 points 4 months ago

    I’m not surprised you get compliments. Before I even read the title, I was thinking “I love those googly eyes!” lol

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    Love those Arkel bags!

    What's the tube thing on the right side of the fork?

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Those front bags were a game changer. Love how sturdy they are and how well they grip the rack. No rattle at all.

    That's a speaker on the fork! I can hear it a lot better there than on the tube.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I only tried front bags on a friend's setup briefly but don't they ruin the handling, especially those big and heavy ones?

    Nice bike!

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 4 months ago

    Less than I expected them to, but I definitely take tight turns more slowly when they're on.

    It's more a weight distribution thing than anything; if I've got 30 lbs of gear in those rear bags and nothing up front, handling gets super hairy on hills, gravel, or rain/snow. Fishtailing on a bicycle at 20+ mph is fucking terrifying.

    If the weight is spread out, it's significantly smoother. And the low center of gravity is great for gravel.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Ok I'm sorry but the googly eyes are darling!

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    She's a beauty!

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    Nice bike! Nice bags! You should consider crossposting to !micromobility@lemmy.world

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    It's a little sad to see her so clean. Do you have photos showing the daily dirt?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    That's a Click-stand, they're great if you haul a lot of weight. He makes them to order and is also a bagger, seems like a legit dude

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    What you got on the front brake to hold her still?

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