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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago* (32 children)

    Did you notice that the US was not involved in this conversation at all until @Subdivide6857@midwest.social brought it up? That the US is in fact entirely irrelevant to this discussion of blatant censorship and partisanship on Lemmy.ml?

    This is a perfectly clear and obvious example of the whataboutism game that tankies love to play. This user should only be ridiculed for their transparent attempts at distraction and deflection. Otherwise, do not engage.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Watch the world-famous mental gymnast as they attempt to perform a complete mid-air double-backflip while walking the titerope of prescribed ideology!

    Wonder in amazement as they spiral ever downward into the pit of whataboutism!

    See them engage in direct ad hominem attacks!

    Laugh at their foibles as they recite CCP propaganda for your entertainment!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    As not an american (there are quite a few of us) I find it extra funny with new layers of silly. Like I am somehow supposed to lose if america is mocked? Like if your not down with the CCP your waving a small american flag?

    Making the whataboutisum comment attacking the usa is great as well since it demonstrates a form of american exceptionalism that they think everyone also believes in. And if they want to refute that they will have to defend america....

    Gold.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (22 children)

    You bet, bud. The US is the reason for the disinformation campaign.

    Spicy take! Let's see the damning evidence, this'll be tasty!

    The US is always involved in the imperialist game.

    Yes, that's the spicy take, repeated.

    That’s not whataboutism. You have these feelings due to the US. It’s not even difficult to sift through the shit. You’re lazy.

    ?????????

    If you happen to be on a troll farm in Russia, you're in grave danger of being sent to the front, if you can't pull your propaganda game together.

    You are awful at this.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    You're definitely in danger of being sent to the front.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Sources are cited. Don’t like it?

    Your content is crap, but who cares.

    I'm stating that you're fucking awful at boosting your cause.

    As in, you inflict direct harm to your cause, through your absolute crap delivery.

    Worst. Ambassador. Ever.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Did you look at the content? The fruits of capitalism are worth reading over. I’m not boosting a cause, I’m shitting on the west. It’s a shit stain on this planet. You simpletons are so easily manipulated by the ruling class.

    Weak.

    You're like a Flat Earther or Sovereign Citizen with respect to both your material, and your ability to make it palatable.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    You’re just making random statements at this point. You’re not making any sense. God bless America. Keep fighting the good fight.

    You mean a series of accurate statements about the shit you peddle, and your skill-set to do so.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Ask Dessalines what they think about trans people

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nah not going to deny the US has engaged in imperialism for as long as they’ve been capable of it, but your source is an asshole.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    The U.S is absolutely involved in imperialism. That shouldn't be a spicy take whatsoever.

    and THeREfORe, tankies are good!

    I've got news for you sunshine. As horrific and imperialist as the US is, you have zero capacity to benefit from the contrast effect.

    You don't get it. If lemmy.ml, the clowns who run it, and their flying monkeys are the de facto voice of your cause on social media, you're fucked.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (72 children)

    Russia and China, on the other hand? Entirely straightforward and transparent in their reporting. No disinformation campaigns there, no sir.

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  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago (65 children)

    Ah, yes, Russia and China are indeed bastions of anti-capitalism.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (28 children)

    Something nice

    It’s just state capitalism.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (25 children)

    So what are they actually working toward?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Hmm, in what way its socialism when they claim the whole of South China Sea, have border dispute left and right, and aggressively expand their market in an anti-competitive way? Call me sheltered libs or libtard or whatever, I certainly cannot see it.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Like, how? Everyone is saying they're working to be socialist economy but no one know how, yet you're so sure of it. Is there a secret sauce that only you people know, that no one else know? Because despite you trying to sell them as "good guy working for greater good", all we're seeing is a country aggressively expanding their domain, via both economy, territory, and military, and the consequences is we fucking suffer from it. If the plan is dominate the world and forcing the world to shift their economy model, then yes we're seeing the same picture.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    The communist party works towards socialism? What happened there?

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    something nice

    For everyone, right?

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  • [+] 12 points 1 year ago (23 children)
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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    Hilarious. When do you expect that goalpost will move?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    What is this incredible progress? What is it measured in and why has it taken 75 years to not even be done? Glad to hear the CCP has extremely high approval rating. How are the political competitions rating in contrast and which non-state controlled institute made the polls?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (12 children)

    They've caused the extinction of several species. They directly contribute a huge amount of carbon and ozone degrading gases and increasingly do so every year. Their cities are flooding massively due to climate change.

    Medical services aren't a modern convenience, especially not in China which has had available healthcare there for thousands of years. Neither is the idea of retirement as the Chinese people take care of their elders.

    The Chinese government does not ask for input. The government is highly fascist and everything you say is very controlled. Try being gay in China. Try expressing political ideas against the current government. Remember the COVID whistleblowers in China? Remember Tibet?

    There is NO safe sky daddy otherworldly government coming to save you or protect you or anyone. These wealthy people are in it for themselves and they are lying. Xi Jing Ping doesn't give a FUCK about you, China, his people, or socialism - he cares about power and having money. The global people are different than the leaders - THEY care about each other, their future as a collective, that things are just or fair. They are not their leaders.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Damn, 100 years of unfulfilled promises. Do you think the communist party could have stayed in charge if China was a democracy?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Oh please.

    Let me rephrase it for you: if China was a well functioning, pluralistic democracy with free contestation, right to opinion, assembly and everything else that makes a democracy a democracy, do you think the communist party could have sat for a 100 years with unfulfilled promises without the Chinese deciding someone else should have a go?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Something nice? Does Taiwan and Hong Kong feel that way? The Uyghers? How about the nations who rely on the South China Sea?

    How about we the people of the world say no to slavery, no to genocide, and no to war, no matter what country tries to justify and use it? Stop being tricked into harming yourself

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I accept your loss due to an inability to form a good faith argument.

    Ps, there is no anarchist propaganda machine. Lol. Lmfao.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Contrary view isn't purely praise and refused to accept the weakness of the country, which is the perspective you and the tankie definitely possessed. We're just stating the obvious and calling a shill shill.

    I occasionally shit on china while also praise some of their aspect, i do it the same way for all the country.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't think clickbait youtube videos are a fair measure of American media reporting on China. Youtube is largely random users shouting into the void. They're going to frequently exaggerate or otherwise spread misinformation on any subject for attention or even simple ignorance. There's little to suggest it's controlled propaganda considering you'll likely find much more conspiracy critical of the American government than China's.

    Since you seem to have a view different than most people here, do you trust China's reporting on itself more than that of reputable western media? If so, why?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    i think russia takes the #1 in the aggressive propaganda platforms out there, they devote significant resources to do it too. hence why you see the sudden rise of right wing governments all over the world, the porn bans, age verfication.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    more significant damage was done by russian disinformation/misinformation, through various media and people and grifters, get out of your high horse.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    But they still ruled in the Soviet Union also.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Allow me to rephrase: There was still a class hierarchy in the Soviet Union.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Except if you were colonised like the Ukrainians, the Holodomor and all that

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