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I give her no more than a month. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
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[–] 61 points 1 year ago* (22 children)

I don't get all the people assuming she's about to be "suicided". For all appearances, it looks like she's conspiring with the people in power to be useful to them in exchange for a pardon. Why would they kill her if she's playing ball?

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Exactly. Getting a pardon for the 20 year sentence is still a sweet deal. All she has to say that trump has nothing to do with it and even if she lies the pardon will absolve it.

    This is why US should never allow blanket pardons or pardons before a conviction.

    A lot of those shenanigans would be cut with those restrictions.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is why US should never allow blanket pardons or pardons before a conviction.

    Not sure if this is really a great example to make your point, considering Maxwell was convicted already, and Trump wouldn't need to issue a blanket pardon to get her out of prison in exchange for her testimony.

    The real issue here is that Trump knows there's no consequences if he does pardon her. He wouldn't get removed from office over it, and I doubt the House would even bring articles of impeachment. The Supreme Court has conceded him all the power, and Congress is too spinless to hold him accountable for anything.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago*

    Maxwell can commit additional crimes (i.e. lying) to get a pardon and that pardon would absolve her from those crimes.

    She could tell a complete lie under oath and after pardon nothing could be done about it.

    This is why no matter what she says, the full unredacted files should be released.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    No one is going to believe her if she says Trump was never a client of Epstein, and then he pardons or commutes her sentence. If she tells the truth, she's not getting the pardon. Trump could promise her the pardon, have her say he wasn't involved with Epstein, and then never pardon her, but then risk she might talk for revenge. Trump needs her to calm the conspiracy theory and shift the focus away from him, without appearing to give her clemency.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    They know that not everyone will buy her testimony. They're counting on enough MAGA people buying it for them to put it all behind them. Having her assassinated would just resurrect the scandal. It's also not realistic to suppose that they could renege on a pardon deal without it getting out, especially if she dies. She has lawyers who'll be only too happy to go on camera and talk about it, and merking them too would only make it worse.

    The playbook should be to have her exculpate Trump in public testimony, declare the scandal over, then pardon her at the end of Trump's term.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    The play is they make a deal with her to say "all of Trumps political enemies are diddlers, but Trump never did anything" by promising her a pardon. But then since its pretty obvious thats a lie and no one will bekeive it, then if they pardon her theres a risk the truth gets out. So they kill her off before she actuslly gets released.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Why take the risk of her saying something?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Because she has a powerful incentive to say what the only person who can get her out of prison wants her to say.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Wasn’t that equally true of Epstein?

    I’m surprised she wasn’t disappeared years back.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Trump v1 still had people in there government that were serving the country. This is why coup didn't succeed. This time the very first thing he did was to prioritize loyalty over experience. Pam Bondi essentially is just trump appendix.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    She's a liability to them. She holds so much power over them; and all she has to do is run to the media and give them "the truth" ("the truth" being what everyone suspects anyway. Doesn't matter if it's actually true or not)

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