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Putin too, for some reason (lemmy.world)
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[–] 1 point 8 hours ago (6 children)

We have a real problem in that it's relatively easy for establishment candidates to give off progressive signals and for the mainstream media to never challenge them, so people will happily pose as progressives and then go right back to the establishment.

Look to Susan Collins for a mirrored example of that. It's very effective.

That said, I think we're going to have a lot of angry primary voters in 2028 if things keep going how they're going.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 hours ago* (4 children)

    No True Progressive

    If someone is a Progressive 99% of the time and fucks up 1% of the time, tHeYrE eStAbLiShMeNt NeOlIbS!!!!

    With this much purity testing, it's no wonder the left has no ground to stand on in the US - the rug keeps getting pulled by people further left of whatever platform they're on.

    Meanwhile the conservatives and fascists are patting each other on the back for putting aside their differences.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

    Getting pissed off at voting for a house speaker with a history of opposing progressive causes after a once-in-century change election isn't purist pique.

    Dems have a chance to redefine the party into something people want to vote for. If we can't do it, we're giving racist Christofascism another shot at a permanent majority. We have a lot of work to do at every level and we can't do it with a corpodem at the top of the hiearchy.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 hours ago* (2 children)

    Getting pissed off at voting for a house speaker with a history of opposing progressive causes after a once-in-century change election isn’t purist pique.

    It is when you try to argue that AOC is No True Progressive.

    Dems have a chance to redefine the party into something people want to vote for. If we can’t do it, we’re giving racist Christofascism another shot at a permanent majority. We have a lot of work to do at every level and we can’t do it with a corpodem at the top of the hiearchy.

    Cool soapbox, but I never said anything different; you're acting like I disagree with you here.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    aoc is fine, this is just silly posturing. Bear in mind that chuds are stupid enough to think "how do you do fellow leftist" will actually work. We have 200 things that need to happen before aoc even begins to be seen as some kind of issue that requires revisiting. She's fine, great even, and both tankies and chuds hate it.

    Just Greta Thunberg all over again, they for some reason attract hate squads.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

    Couldn't agree more with the exception that it's possible schipelblorp is in fact simply a misguided progressive/leftist/etc. that thinks taking her down will magically make an equally popular and effective but slightly more progressive candidate emerge from her ashes. It won't.

    As you say, she's great, but not perfect; insinuating she's been a fake progressive this whole time is counterproductive at best, disinformation at worst.

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