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Big Walk Used AI In 'The Final Stretch' Of Development, Kicking Off Intense Awards Debate (aftermath.site)
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[–] 56 points 1 day ago* (8 children)

There are endless threads to discuss in this, but two really seem lost in this debate:

  • The distinction between vibecoding, and lower levels of LLM tool usage.

  • How widespread the latter already is in software development.

Basically, if you’re a dev coding for money… you’re already interacting with text models, somehow. You have been. Everyone reading this post is using code touched by them, up and down the stack.

Hence I don’t think people realize how impractical the “purist anti AI” stance really is. It’s like asking devs to avoid anything touched by Microsoft or Facebook: a good idea on the surface, but how on Earth would you actually do it?

I think what gamers really hate is higher levels of vibecoding and tool usage to make slop. As they should. As well as support for authoritarian entities backing them. But this just isn’t a practical debate without discussing where to draw the line, rather than an absolutist “LLMs or no LLMs” take, as the latter is going to catch basically every dev on the planet.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    You can just not use it personally?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    In the modern internet and tech, get away from AI entirely, period. It's being shoved in our faces everywhere, it's copilot on your Windows 11 machine, it's being used to develop Linux distros, most numbers you call for support force you through AI bots first.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 hours ago (1 child)

    But that's the point that is an unreasonable stance. Unless you go and live in the woods or something you're going to be interacting with AI produced code, so what we need to do is stop automatically having the knee jerk reaction of "AI bad" and instead have an actual productive nuance discussion about where we want to draw the line.

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  • [–] 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

    You have been. Everyone reading this post is using code touched by them, up and down the stack.

    This is obvious from the new bugs in everything after every update

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  • [–] 5 points 11 hours ago*

    I was working as a programmer up until 2020 when I lost my job due to covid and then subsequently switched industries.

    There have been things like textual code autocomplete since at least 2015 so if you're take is everything's bad now because automation tools then you have to look back over a decade to really make that determination.

    I remember doing TDD using auto generated testing around 2017-2018 time, I know for a fact that Facebook did a huge code rewrite around that time to make use of things like CSS pre-compilers (which I gather ate basically redundant now but CSS has been updated to be actually useful).

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