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I probably can't offer much in the way of comfort...

NSFW, TMI...I mean, all I can offer is my body, and I doubt you'd want that :P...

...but I really, truly, honestly appreciate all of you guys. Really 💜

Without men, my life would be pretty boring and honestly pointless. And I don't just mean for sexual reasons...

NSFW, TMI...well, the sexual reasons are a big and important part of it too, ngl, but they're not the only reason.

I see and appreciate you. You matter 🩷
To me. To your families. To everyone here ❤️

This isn't much comfort, but if any of you guys needs someone to talk to, my Matrix account is:
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Feel free to reach out!

You're not alone. You're never alone. I love you guys 💜

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  • [–] 36 points 1 day ago* (9 children)

    Famously, the first major legal win for feminism was a man getting custody of his child.

    Its sad that so many men have swallowed the propaganda that feminism is somehow hurting them.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Patriarchy absolutely hurts men as well and I don't want to take away from your comment. I fully support it. And I fully support men revolting against the patriarchy and living how they want to live without the pressure to conform.

    The first major legal win for feminism was about a mother being granted custody because before 1839, fathers were automatically granted custody of their children.

    The Custody of Infants Act of 1839 is often seen as the first feminist legislative victory in a long campaign to reform English marriage laws (Shanley 17, Chase and Levenson 40). While legal scholars have noted instances when a father’s total control over his legitimate children had been limited by judicial rulings prior to 1839 (Abramowicz 1345), the 1839 Act stands as the first major reform to recognize the rights of mothers. The important role played by Caroline Norton in the passage of the Act is also key to recognizing the law as a feminist triumph (Shanley 17).

    Prior to the 1839 Custody of Infants Act, a father had a right to his legitimate children and was automatically granted custody if he and his wife separated for any reason (Bailey 393). Most fathers granted custody or access to the children’s mothers because it was considered ungentlemanly to deny mothers the opportunity to be with their children. Judges could also require a father to grant access or custody to the mother in circumstances in which the children’s welfare would be in jeopardy if they were left with their father. (Bailey 394)

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    My mistake, I was thinking of RBG in Weinberger v. Wiesenfeld

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  • [–] 16 points 1 day ago

    That is a perfect example of the patriarchy hurting men. Assuming men are the sole and primary earners in the family can lead to discriminatory decisions like this:

    Stephen Wiesenfeld and Paula Polatschek were married in 1970. Polatschek had worked as a teacher for the five years prior to their marriage and continued teaching after they were married. Her salary was the principle source of the couple’s income, and social security contributions were regularly deducted from her salary. In 1972, Polatschek died in childbirth, which left Wiesenfeld with the care of their newborn son. Wiesenfeld applied for social security benefits for himself and his son, and was told that his son could receive them but that he could not. Social Security Act provides benefits based on the earnings of a deceased husband and father that are available to both the children and the widow. The benefits for a deceased wife and mother, however, are only available to the children.

    In 1973, Wiesenfeld sued on behalf of himself and similarly situated widowers. He claimed that the relevant section of the Social Security Act unfairly discriminated on the basis of sex and sought summary judgment. A three-judge panel of the district court granted Wiesenfeld’s motion for summary judgment

    Thanks for bringing it up!!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago

    Just like how the men’s rights movement has absolutely dogshit people, the feminist movements also have some who see the movement in a selfish supremacist manner.

    This is why I call myself a humanist or egalitarian, I want it to be clear I see neither sex nor gender as superior, and everyone is deserving of dignity, rights, and respect.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago* (4 children)

    Feminism is good, but I do not think it's right to fight for men's rights under this banner. It's simply too easy to hijack by reminding that feminism is, in principle, about women's rights (hence the name), and completely lose the part about men from the conversation. This happened before, and it will happen again.

    It's very unfortunate that "men's rights activism" was also hijacked by patriarchal assholes who have nothing in common with actual men's rights. But masculism as a whole can be remedied, and can complement feminism organically as part of a broader antisexism movement.

    So, ideally, we should agree on feminism being a movement for equality with focus on women's issues, masculism is the same but focusing on specific issues of men, and both uniting to bash patriarchals and fight for a better, more equal and just future.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

    Okay, but as a woman, it's a LOT better for everyone to understand feminism is FOR EVERYONE. Whether its in the name or not, the point is that everyone should have the same rights regardless of sex/gender.

    I generally really hate movements that separate people by the very things the problem at hand separates people by. Like... No... People are people ffs - THAT, is what matters. Equality > Equity - its better in the long term and doesn't further segregate ideals.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago) (2 children)

    Everyone should have the same rights regardless of sex/gender.

    Exactly. And for that we have a broader field of antisexism, comprised of feminism and masculism (and also fight against discrimination of nonbinary people - I'm not sure if it has an established name yet).

    We don't need to cram men's rights issues into the movement that wasn't created with them in mind. We can have a more organized alternative, one that doesn't compete with feminism but organically adds to it in the broader antisexist perspective. This ensures everyone's voices are heard, and no conversation is skipped or hijacked.

    And with a broader antisexism umbrella, it must be remembered that feminism and masculism are just two angles for the same problem, with a common end goal. Not to mention, gendered issues are also highly interconnected, requiring us to untangle them from all sides. It's worth supporting the antisexist goals as a whole, and then dip into specific problematic as needed.

    Now, I know, the term "masculism" was often tainted by MRA activists, who have nothing to do with equality and promoted patriarchy. But in principle, masculism is simply about the fight against discrimination of men, same as feminism goes against discrimination of women. And just as there are TERFs on the side of feminists, there's unfortunately their counterpart in the form of MRA. Neither define feminism or masculism as a whole.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

    The amount of things created without everyone/everything in mind would be... A lot.

    For a LONG time, feminism has meant more than what it was created for a VERY VERY long time ago. I concede its name doesn't do it's purposes justice... But again - my last paragraph in my initial reply.

    You bring up non-binary people... And tbh that's part of my point. If we create movements that exclude, then... Well... That's exactly what will happen given any particular movement's success.

    Chasing equality is harder. It takes more effort to push against existing inequalities than it takes to create equitable alternatives... But in the end it means breaking down all these differences people use to separate others and drive inequality in the first place.

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    My point is rather to make it so that people, any people of all genders, couldn't be excluded from the conversation. As things stand, men and nonbinary people can be easily excluded should the tides turn. This is a precarious position and can lead to the reversal of the achievements we've made to guarantee equality.

    I don't mean to sepatate the fight for women's, men's and nonbinaries' rights, but rather recategorize it in a way that guarantees everyone's voice in the conversation.

    What you mean by feminism, this inclusive one, is what I mean by antisexism. If anything, it's simply reframing the terms to make them adequately reflect the status quo and exclude possibility for malice.

    If we frame it as antisexism, not feminism, no one could come and say "actually, it's feminism" and sideline all non-women from the conversation. When it's antisexism, it's about everyone. And that seems to be exactly what we want to share - to have a common goal of shared humanity.

    And the rest are just categories. It's not about some people embracing feminism, others embracing masculism and third embracing...enbyism?, it's just categories within a larger antisexist thought, coming from the idea that people should unite to combat all forms of sexism, not just one particular flavor.

    In other words, we seem to talk about much the same thing, I just want to frame it in a way that puts more confidence in that non-women voices will always be heard as well.

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