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[–] 9 points 2 days ago* (3 children)

So, I understand the points you're making about medication regulation. Certainly, ibuprofen carries enough risk with abuse for the ease of access to be questioned, for example, but I'm unsure of the claim here that there are other ways for open access to HRT.

It seems that the conclusion here is that liberal civil rights campaigns are more effective with less risk, but I'm unsure if that's the point, since, y'know, that would require trans people to even further risk their safety by cooperating with institutions that are largely dedicated to the genocide of trans people. I'm sure that would carry a less general medical risk since, of course, it is not only trans people making use of these medications, but I don't see how this could be argued as more dangerous for trans people specifically.

I think it's also crucial to note here that even the non-violent actions that are necessary to fight for that protection carries the risk of incarceration, and therefore, significantly high chances of sexual violence given the disproportionate rate that trans people experience sexual violence in those cases. Even more, in the US, there are many cases where we'd be asking trans people to risk forceful "detransition" to participate in said campaign, as that is an accepted policy within the US carceral institution.

I do hope I'm misreading the last part of your comment for that reason, as I think that kind of point would ask us to ignore the trans people who died to secure what access we do have (very many of which suffered the consequences I listed above), as well as the reality that these institutions only conceded rights to that access as part of a longer campaign against transness, the consequences of which we are witnessing through the current wave of genocidal policies targetting trans people. With all that in mind, I find it difficult to weigh the valid concerns over medical safety against the specific needs for some of the most vulnerable people in our society. Surely, there is an acceptable risk I'm willing to generalize should that mean fewer trans youth die because they refuse to live without access to themselves.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (2 children)

    Oh, I'm fully on board with DIY as a life saving measure. It infuriates me that anyone, much less a kid, has to go that route, but it is an ugly world full of hate and even just plain bias, so DIY is the only realistic option for way too many people.

    I'm just saying that trying to make a class of meds OTC isn't the long term answer to that problem.

    I'm so sick of seeing good people treated like garbage for the crime of not fitting preconceptions. It's one of the things that shifted my views on the desirability of violent revolution away from a purely pacifist stance. Too many people get crushed waiting for a peaceful change. But that's not really on topic, sorry for the mini rant.

    Coming back to it, I think that trying to reclassify HRT meds as OTC would, at best, kick the can down the road on trans rights to access. At worst, it turns into another fight of its own that just isn't useful on a strategic level, and since it doesn't achieve the goal any better than other paths to open access, the risks it brings aren't worth it.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    Oh yes, I didn't think you were against DIY HRT generally based on your comment.

    I do think systemic violence is very much on topic, especially following my comment. We have to be real, every trans issue is a topic related to a group of people who are regularly targetted for genocide. This is why I'm a bit confused about this final point again, about wider access being definitively less effective and more harmful than alternatives, since we don't really have alternatives.

    Every act of cooperation with a liberal-capitalist system is "kicking the can down the road," since that system fundamentally desires the eradication of queerness. As far as violence goes, I'm not sure how you could argue that, again, an increased generalized risk to the benefit of trans people is in any way more risky than simply continuing the current path, which is civil recognition, when that literally resulted in the current moment of trans genocide and is concurrent with the consistently high rate of self-harm and suicide among trans people. As far as I see it here, your point is that a potential threat to the general population is more of a concern than the very real and immediate threat faced by trans people today.

    As you've stated in other comments, there already is HRT misinformation, and the systemic oppression that we experience has necessitated community responses and education campaigns. So, I don't really see how this would be a problem for trans people specifically, whom already have an information network via the preexistng ones within the trans community. I also don't see how this would be any more or less difficult to implement in the current cultural moment within the US (and anglosphere) and/or EU contexts, since, again, we are already dealing with the negative consequences of cooperation in the first place. I'm not sure what strategic value there is in foregoing campaigns that can codify trans access to HRT without explicit trans rights in mind, and therefore protection against the repeal of policy on the basis of anti-transness alone.

    So, could you please explain what alternatives you're referring to?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    Hey, I'm not ignoring you. I'm having trouble reading this currently. Tired, dyslexia, and the app I use isn't great once you get enough comments chained.

    I plan to come back to it tomorrow on a different device because it definitely looks like a great comment from what I can parse. But I'm also horrible with time and some types of memory, so I didn't want you to think I was dismissing you when I'm just flaky in some aspects.

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