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[–] [S] -3 points 20 hours ago (19 children)

Mississipi allows postal votes postmarked up to election day. They then allow 10 days for these to make it through the system and then they count.

Wondered about this. Wild. Sounds like the whole system is fiddled to ensure the republican norm.

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  • [–] 19 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

    Remember that NONE of the results in any state are certified yet. Everything at this point is just projected wins based on statistical probability. Until all votes are counted, and potentially recounted depending on each state's voting laws, there are no official winners yet anywhere. Some states have mandatory recounts if results are within a certain range. Some the candidates can request recounts if within certain ranges. That sort of thing.

    Most states allow mail in votes as long as they are postmarked by election day. Usually the race isn't close enough to where the likelihood of ballots arriving more than a day or so after would change the outcome. Mississippi is unusually close, it is extremely rare for any election to be this close.

    It's not a big deal really, the entire electoral system timeframe in the US is still based on needing to travel by horse to deliver notifications of counts and things like that. It was never updated for modern technology so there is plenty of time built into the system to count and adjudicate normally.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

    It's not a big deal really, the entire electoral system timeframe in the US is still based on needing to travel by horse to deliver notifications of counts and things like that. It was never updated for modern technology so there is plenty of time built into the system to count and adjudicate normally.

    To be honest it sounds incredibly backward to someone from a country where (in a general election) you vote one day, results announced by the time you wake up the next, and new head of govt in power by 2pm that day 😅

    In general, its as if rules and procedures in US are chiseled on a stone tablet and cannot ever be modified or removed.

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago (1 child)

    Until all votes are counted, and potentially recounted depending on each state's voting laws, there are no official winners yet anywhere.

    I suppose I don't know the legality of it, technically, but in many places the obviously defeated candidates will outright concede.

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  • [–] 2 points 16 hours ago

    I'm pretty sure that's just the right thing to do accepting the inevitable and showing sportsmanship, it has no actual legal bearing on the election. Even if everyone else concedes, they still have to finish counting and certify the election officially.

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  • [–] 8 points 17 hours ago

    Mail in voting lets more people vote, generally people who can't make it to the polls day of because they have to work or have children with no child care (poor, working class, more diverse). Conservatives in the US tend to dislike it and worked hard this election to try to kill it.

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  • [–] 8 points 20 hours ago (9 children)

    It sounds surprisingly fair to me. Many people who have to use postal voting work long hours or multiple jobs and they're unlikely to vote R.

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  • [–] 2 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

    Is there no early voting in Mississippi?

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  • [–] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 child)

    Yes, but very limited. Basically, only if you're disabled, old (basically the retired), or temporarily residing elsewhere (aka rich people with multiple homes).

    Who is entitled to vote absentee by mail?

    1. Any person who is temporarily residing outside of their county of residence, and the ballot must be mailed to an address outside the municipality.
    2. Any person who has a temporary or permanent physical disability and who, because of such disability, is unable to vote in person without substantial hardship to himself, herself or others, or whose attendance at the voting place could reasonably cause danger to himself, herself or others.
    3. The parent, spouse or dependent of a person with a temporary or permanent physical disability who is hospitalized outside of his or her county of residence or more than fifty (50) miles distant from his or her residence, if the parent, spouse or dependent will be with such person on election day.
    4. Any person who is sixty-five (65) years of age or older.
    5. Any incarcerated individual who has not been convicted of a disenfranchising crime. Residency of incarcerated individuals is determined by the residence of the person prior to his/her incarceration.

    https://www.sos.ms.gov/yall-vote/absentee-voting-information

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  • [–] 0 points 16 hours ago

    Hopefully this situation encourages them to allow more early voting. Everyone pissed Mississippi taking so long now.

    It's a lot better for the state if these people vote early instead of wait until election day to mail in their vote and then take ten days to arrive, or find out they aren't registered and need to produce ID 5 days after the election.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 20 hours ago (4 children)

    Better ways to handle it though i.e. send ballots out x weeks beforehand and demand they are returned by polling day.

    I'm not a fan of postal ballots tbh and people in places with mandatory voting (e. G. Oz) work just as hard and manage to do their duty.

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  • [–] 4 points 18 hours ago

    Better ways to handle it though i.e. send ballots out x weeks beforehand and demand they are returned by polling day.

    because each State sets how their elections are handled. Many states do this, but mail-in voting isn't universal. Some states as soon as you register they're automatically going to send you a ballot you can mail back or drop off, others you can register for permanent early ballots. I bet you can guess which States those tend to be, and which political party tends to govern them. There are states that don't allow it at all, and some only allow you to request an early ballot if you can prove you're going to be out of the city/county/state on election day. And that requires that you weren't purged from the voter rolls without being notified after the registration deadline (which can be months before election day).

    places with mandatory voting (e. G. Oz) work just as hard and manage to do their duty.

    That requires that voting is made easily and readily available. Something not true across much of the US since there is a party that historically does better when fewer people vote. So they do everything they can to prevent people from voting as much as possible (legally or not). Things like shortening hours the polls are open, or removing polling locations entirely, even making it so there's only 1 location for an entire county with millions of people. Or not allowing people to vote after the polls close, even if they are already in line. And purging voter rolls days before the election so people have no idea they're no longer registered to vote.

    Not to mention that while employers are usually required to give you time to vote, the requirement is often only an hour or two, while the lines at the polls can be multiple hours long. And that doesn't take into account people having to work multiple part-time jobs where neither is required to give that time because there should be off hours to vote, but with the other job/jobs that time doesn't actually exist.

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago*

    Ok I do my job and mail it back early. But the postal system doesn't drive it over quickly enough and it doesn't get there in time. So my vote doesn't count? I did my job. So why should my vote not count? As long as I do my job and it's postmarked by a certain date, my vote should count.

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  • [–] 4 points 17 hours ago

    Some of it is mail in ballots but that's normal in most states. The 1 week delay in Mississippi right now are the affidavit (provisional) ballots where someone didn't have the right ID, had just changed their name, or otherwise couldn't match their registered voter identity.

    Those folks sign a temporary vote (affidavit or provisional) and then have a week to follow up with the proper ID and otherwise sort out their information to ensure their vote is counted.

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  • [–] 1 point 15 hours ago

    Washington State allows "postmarked by election day" ballots too, and the up-to-the-wire votes always trend left, so this actually benefits Democrats quite a bit. Plus it removes the ambiguity of "is it still safe to mail my vote?" Especially since the USPS got hamstrung by the Trump administration the first time around, and is a less reliable service now.

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