Im looking for a first car for about 3500€ which can hopefully last a few years daily commuting During my apprenticeship

Now, I come from a Toyota family, since they are reliable af in the engine Department, even if they (at least the yaris and prius from the 00s) drive pretty badly

But the aygos sold here for that price have extremely high mileage (as in 160k+), and even if they have been treated for Rust, which they have probably not knowing the people who drive a 2006 aygo base model without aircon), it tends to be very noticeable on the inside of the car and all the nice to have stuff

Now, I've been looking at the VW golf 3 door from about 03, they go for about 2800€ Max for like 100k, but from what I've heard VW, Audi and the likes tend to die around 100k, but they are just so great in every other aspect

So now I'm looking for comments from the car gods.

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[–] 2 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

My first car was a golf. If you can DIY it’ll help a lot. Personally they have a reputation that isn’t exactly deserved. I’ve owned German cars and helped maintain Japanese cars. Brakes and oil and such are really a lot cheaper but some of the parts on the Japanese are shockingly expensive in comparison, once you get outside of the “regular maintenance” space.

I have two problems with Toyotas and Hondas. They’re too expensive for their age, and they’re soulless.

I am oversimplifying, but I believe there’s fundamental Philosophical differences between German, American, and Japanese engineering and construction. The Germans build things in a complex manner, often beyond the Pareto Principle. The result is that the thing is marginally superior, but requires regular, scheduled, and often complex and expensive maintenance. The Americans build things with a hammer and duct tape and the thing will work badly much longer than the German product will work. The Japanese build with fine tolerance and simplicity, and assuming not actual abuse and regular maintenance, will outlast them all. But it will be boring. When the business starts cutting costs, they all start to suck.

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  • [+] -6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

    and they’re soulless.

    It's an appliance. Does your toaster have soul?

    People who say brainless shit like this deserve poverty.

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  • [–] 4 points 12 hours ago

    Does soul music have soul? Art manifests in many forms. If I'm watching Soul Train I am expecting something with soul. As a kid I got much less trains than I expected when it was on but got plenty of soul.

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