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[–] 7 points 18 hours ago (12 children)

And the Democrats will once again ignore any mandate from voters that conflicts with the orders they get from their donors.

There's a warehouse full of shiny new Fell For It Again awards waiting to be handed out to all the optimistic ShitLibs who saw the returns Tuesday night and are already checked out and back at brunch.

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  • [–] 9 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

    Pessimism of the mind. Optimism of the spirit. You are correct that there are a lot of ways things can go wrong, but that just means we need to put in the work to overcome those obstacles. Put that pessimism to work by using it to predict and surmout roadblocks. If you feel phone calls arent enough, go door knock. If you feels door knocking isn't enough, start organizing. If you feel organizing isn't enough, run for office. Get more and more involved in politics until you understand in your soul that a better future is possible, if only we all work together to make it happen.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

    I spent a decade as a campaign staffer for progressive Dem candidates. I know whereof I speak when I say that's all a waste of time if your phone calls, door knocks, and organizing are running through the Democratic Party, because the people who control the levers of power inside the party will never allow anyone to the left of Kissinger to touch them. They've created all the rules to guarantee no body can stop them or take away their ability to gatekeep.all the meaningful power in the party.

    But don't take my word for it, take your own advice, bust your ass for progressive campaigns and see how far it gets you. Once you see it for yourself, you'll basically be me.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

    Thank you for the work you've done so far. The work you did may not have had a noticable effect while you were more active, but that work you put in helped get us in a more progressive space today.

    Centrist Dems are losing a lot of power and hopefully the party continues moving in a more progressive direction. The people I talk to who would not consider themselves radically progressive are expressing some very progressive ideas, like getting rid of Chuck Schumer or expanding the Senate/Supreme Court. These are ideas that a decade ago would be considered fringe and radical, but are now considered popular and average for the Dem voter base.

    I am going to continue being politically active and, not to be too confrontational, I hope that in a decade, I do not end up as pessimistic and sapped of hope as you are currently.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    that work you put in helped get us in a more progressive space today.

    But it didn't, because we haven't. All that's happened is the same old party machine has revamped its branding a bit. Half that crop of DSA freshmen are Third Way plants or other dissembling opportunists using the current zeitgeist to further their careers, and the other half will never be allowed to be anything but the bait that keeps dragging left-leaning Liberals back to the center right party.

    I hope that in a decade, I do not end up as pessimistic and sapped of hope as you are currently.

    As long as you never look under the hood of the party to see how its power structures work and never question any party narratives about why policy keeps moving right no matter how much the voters want it to move left, then you probably won't. But you'll also never see the world you think you're voting for.

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  • [–] 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (6 children)

    You're being a bitter crumudgen because there are now more Democrats that fought and won against AIPAC money and big money politics with good policy platforms. They ran on a platform of Medicare for all, ending wars, and more progressive policies. We need to see how it shakes out, and calling them ShitLibs is just naked cynicism. When it inevitably comes down to corporate Democrats blocking these efforts, you can go ahead and call them out, but the only way forward is to primary them with better people. Pretending like the new batch is the old batch is disingenuous.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 hours ago

    Pretending that DSA Blue is in any way meaningfully different than Third Way Blue is an exercise in idealism and a refusal to learn anything at all from history. Your Fell For It Again Award will be along in 6-12 months when the fig leaf falls off and the naked neoliberalism is back on display.

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  • [–] 0 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

    There is at best 10 anti Israel democrats politicians

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  • [–] 0 points 17 hours ago* (3 children)

    You're being obtuse then because there's already been a house and senate votes with over 100 Democrats that voted no to Israeli money. Here are 40 Democrat senators that voted to stop the money faucet: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1192/vote_119_2_00080.htm. So literally take your cynicism and disappear until you can converse like an adult.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago (1 child)

    If you know you are going to lose the vote, you are free to vote anyway it looks good to your constituents without ever really tipping your hand to who is actually pulling your strings.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 hours ago*

    Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Do you explain everything in your life that way? Some things are just exactly as they seem, and there doesn't need to be some PR conspiracy. Hopefully we find out what they really think when we have the votes; no excuses.

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