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[–] velma@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 week ago (29 children) Not everyone enjoys watching others die. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 29 child comments replies: [–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago (5 children) Then don't watch a video labelled plane crash? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] sartalon@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (4 children) To be fair to the guy you are commenting to, it auto plays while scrolling through Lemmy, at least on mine. So I can see some people may end up seeing it that didn't want to. 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (3 children) Velma is a woman, not a guy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) Oof, someone downvoted you for this? I’m sorry, that’s super petty. Thank you for saying something! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago Your aggressive feminism does not go uncelebrated behind the scenes. Yw. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sartalon@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago So? permalink fedilink source parent [–] redbrick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (22 children) But you didn't actually see anyone die. You know it from news reports. Also I'm not referring to this video. I just think the NSFW label is overused and abused in terms of click-baiting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago (3 children) It is, and it also becomes a weapon for the growing puritan culture. But a huge explosion, that's a plane crash, where 9 people die in an accident is still NSFW. It is not a video of cute cats playing in the sun, it is a video of people fucking dying, even if you can't easily make out people bits explode in the fireball. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] redbrick@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children) Perhaps your argument would work...50 years ago? Today with trump and ubiquitous cams...this is everyday news. People getting shot in schools, and doing crazy stuff. It really brings the reality to the fore front on our existence. We are easily extinguish...and all life is precious....so we should all endeavor for peace and coexistence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) No I get it, things have absolutely changed. Things that 50 years ago would be gross and offensive today is casual or even still professional speak and vice versa. That still doesn't change the fact that I think it is and should be considered NSFW or have a caution or warning that it contains death. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] redbrick@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago I agree Caution Warning for sure... Liveleak...now that was some insane shit back in the day....The whole site should've been call NSFW! permalink fedilink source parent [–] velma@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 week ago (17 children) Fine, then throw a CW at least. You don't need to dig your heels in on insisting people should watch this death video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 18 points 1 week ago (12 children) The title saying it's a video of a plane crashing isn't a warning enough? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago Not all airplane crashes are deaths, sometimes the plane and the road exchange insurance information afterwards. permalink fedilink source parent [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (10 children) And the rules request a CW when applicable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 11 points 1 week ago (9 children) And that's not what you asked for. I conceded CW is fair enough and you continued to argue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -8 points 1 week ago* (8 children) And I thanked you at the end of our back and forth, upvoted you, and now you're back here nagging at me? What the fuck? Ah that was another user who was much more polite than you were. Nevermind. My original point still stands - this should have a CW or NSFW because it is a death video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (7 children) No you didn't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 week ago (6 children) Edited. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (5 children) How was I impolite? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (4 children) I wasn't arguing back about the CW when I maintained that, in my opinion, death videos shouldn't be pushed into people's timelines. You are arguing that people should be forced to watch this death video because the BBC shows a censored version of it. That you are digging in your heels and arguing that people should have death videos pushed into their social media feeds without a warning is at the very least impolite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (3 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? I said NSFW blocks content from being visible to many servers, implying it should only be used when the content truly fits the definition of NSFW. This is a distressing video, but not NSFW. If you don't want to risk seeing videos of this nature I think it's probably best you block this community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (2 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? Well the BBC showed an edited version, so it's totally okay to allow this on people's feeds without any warning at all /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) CW fair enough, but NSFW blocks it from several servers erroneously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 week ago Yes we already went through this, you didn't need to jump into a different conversation to tell me the exact same thing thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redbrick@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 child) I agree, there should've been some warning at least. It is tragic and horrific. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago Thank you, that's the only point I was trying to make. permalink fedilink source parent [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) insisting people should watch this death video. In fairness, I don't see anyone making such assertions. On the general topic, I don't disagree with your sentiment per se, but I will also note that most news will show footage of fatal plane crashes, so I humbly suggest your view is a minority one on this. I would normally suggest there's no harm in marking it NSFW, but others noted that would censor it from some places, and so I don't think that's a great solution; otherwise I'd lend my voice in support to you anyway, even though I don't thnk it's necessary. But I appreciate you speaking up on it, even if I happen to disagree in this instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago I disagree with what the news does, then. Even if they show it, they really should say something like "this video clip is graphic and is uncensored. It contains people dying".... Nah, the more I think about what they should say, the more I think they really shouldn't show it so easily. There needs to more barrier to entry, but the more barrier to entry with them still showing it, the more I feel like them showing it at all is wrong. Like maybe if we went back to the thing where an anchor said like "this video is inappropriate for sensitive viewers" and gave 5-10 seconds of warning, followed by basically "this is your last chance to not watch". Because deep down, I think there's a part of me that is against hiding the ugly parts of life and death and trauma. I think unnecessary trauma should be avoided, but like a lot of people in here are arguing, this stuff isn't exactly uncommon. So when it comes down to it, I don't have a perfect solution for tv cable news. For fediverse, though, and the wider Internet and text based info, we have warnings like NSFW and content warnings for common rough triggers like rape or abuse or stuff that can trigger PTSD. And putting those warnings on stuff for people is just the right thing to do. Because it isn't for you, it's for other people who don't know exactly how it's going to impact them until it's too late. There are certain things you can't unsee. Like jars, horses, elbows, chainsaws, gunshots, or other stuff. And just because something isn't a majority opinion doesn't disqualify it from having a warning. That just ends up catering to already overserved demographics. Like if even a few people are gonna be traumatized by a video that literally contains death, the correct response isn't to say "too bad so sad fuck you" and not tag it. Especially when the convention is to tag it. Just tag it, it costs nobody anything. And if it adds to government censorship, that's truly unfortunate, but I don't suggest we untag all NSFW content just so they can bypass that. Because that also harms the few to sate the many. In that situation, either the people on the censorship instances need to deal with that, or a compromise should be made, such as a non-tag warning. Like just putting the warning in the title. That accomplishes the actual warning whilst also giving people with the censorship laws their death videos. Everybody's happy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago (5 children) Then don't watch a video labelled plane crash? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] sartalon@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (4 children) To be fair to the guy you are commenting to, it auto plays while scrolling through Lemmy, at least on mine. So I can see some people may end up seeing it that didn't want to. 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (3 children) Velma is a woman, not a guy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) Oof, someone downvoted you for this? I’m sorry, that’s super petty. Thank you for saying something! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago Your aggressive feminism does not go uncelebrated behind the scenes. Yw. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sartalon@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago So? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (4 children) To be fair to the guy you are commenting to, it auto plays while scrolling through Lemmy, at least on mine. So I can see some people may end up seeing it that didn't want to. 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (3 children) Velma is a woman, not a guy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) Oof, someone downvoted you for this? I’m sorry, that’s super petty. Thank you for saying something! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago Your aggressive feminism does not go uncelebrated behind the scenes. Yw. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sartalon@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago So? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (3 children) Velma is a woman, not a guy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) Oof, someone downvoted you for this? I’m sorry, that’s super petty. Thank you for saying something! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago Your aggressive feminism does not go uncelebrated behind the scenes. Yw. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sartalon@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago So? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 child) Oof, someone downvoted you for this? I’m sorry, that’s super petty. Thank you for saying something! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago Your aggressive feminism does not go uncelebrated behind the scenes. Yw. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chloroken@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago Your aggressive feminism does not go uncelebrated behind the scenes. Yw. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redbrick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (22 children) But you didn't actually see anyone die. You know it from news reports. Also I'm not referring to this video. I just think the NSFW label is overused and abused in terms of click-baiting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago (3 children) It is, and it also becomes a weapon for the growing puritan culture. But a huge explosion, that's a plane crash, where 9 people die in an accident is still NSFW. It is not a video of cute cats playing in the sun, it is a video of people fucking dying, even if you can't easily make out people bits explode in the fireball. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] redbrick@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children) Perhaps your argument would work...50 years ago? Today with trump and ubiquitous cams...this is everyday news. People getting shot in schools, and doing crazy stuff. It really brings the reality to the fore front on our existence. We are easily extinguish...and all life is precious....so we should all endeavor for peace and coexistence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) No I get it, things have absolutely changed. Things that 50 years ago would be gross and offensive today is casual or even still professional speak and vice versa. That still doesn't change the fact that I think it is and should be considered NSFW or have a caution or warning that it contains death. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] redbrick@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago I agree Caution Warning for sure... Liveleak...now that was some insane shit back in the day....The whole site should've been call NSFW! permalink fedilink source parent [–] velma@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 week ago (17 children) Fine, then throw a CW at least. You don't need to dig your heels in on insisting people should watch this death video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 18 points 1 week ago (12 children) The title saying it's a video of a plane crashing isn't a warning enough? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago Not all airplane crashes are deaths, sometimes the plane and the road exchange insurance information afterwards. permalink fedilink source parent [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (10 children) And the rules request a CW when applicable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 11 points 1 week ago (9 children) And that's not what you asked for. I conceded CW is fair enough and you continued to argue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -8 points 1 week ago* (8 children) And I thanked you at the end of our back and forth, upvoted you, and now you're back here nagging at me? What the fuck? Ah that was another user who was much more polite than you were. Nevermind. My original point still stands - this should have a CW or NSFW because it is a death video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (7 children) No you didn't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 week ago (6 children) Edited. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (5 children) How was I impolite? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (4 children) I wasn't arguing back about the CW when I maintained that, in my opinion, death videos shouldn't be pushed into people's timelines. You are arguing that people should be forced to watch this death video because the BBC shows a censored version of it. That you are digging in your heels and arguing that people should have death videos pushed into their social media feeds without a warning is at the very least impolite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (3 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? I said NSFW blocks content from being visible to many servers, implying it should only be used when the content truly fits the definition of NSFW. This is a distressing video, but not NSFW. If you don't want to risk seeing videos of this nature I think it's probably best you block this community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (2 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? Well the BBC showed an edited version, so it's totally okay to allow this on people's feeds without any warning at all /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) CW fair enough, but NSFW blocks it from several servers erroneously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 week ago Yes we already went through this, you didn't need to jump into a different conversation to tell me the exact same thing thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redbrick@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 child) I agree, there should've been some warning at least. It is tragic and horrific. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago Thank you, that's the only point I was trying to make. permalink fedilink source parent [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) insisting people should watch this death video. In fairness, I don't see anyone making such assertions. On the general topic, I don't disagree with your sentiment per se, but I will also note that most news will show footage of fatal plane crashes, so I humbly suggest your view is a minority one on this. I would normally suggest there's no harm in marking it NSFW, but others noted that would censor it from some places, and so I don't think that's a great solution; otherwise I'd lend my voice in support to you anyway, even though I don't thnk it's necessary. But I appreciate you speaking up on it, even if I happen to disagree in this instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago I disagree with what the news does, then. Even if they show it, they really should say something like "this video clip is graphic and is uncensored. It contains people dying".... Nah, the more I think about what they should say, the more I think they really shouldn't show it so easily. There needs to more barrier to entry, but the more barrier to entry with them still showing it, the more I feel like them showing it at all is wrong. Like maybe if we went back to the thing where an anchor said like "this video is inappropriate for sensitive viewers" and gave 5-10 seconds of warning, followed by basically "this is your last chance to not watch". Because deep down, I think there's a part of me that is against hiding the ugly parts of life and death and trauma. I think unnecessary trauma should be avoided, but like a lot of people in here are arguing, this stuff isn't exactly uncommon. So when it comes down to it, I don't have a perfect solution for tv cable news. For fediverse, though, and the wider Internet and text based info, we have warnings like NSFW and content warnings for common rough triggers like rape or abuse or stuff that can trigger PTSD. And putting those warnings on stuff for people is just the right thing to do. Because it isn't for you, it's for other people who don't know exactly how it's going to impact them until it's too late. There are certain things you can't unsee. Like jars, horses, elbows, chainsaws, gunshots, or other stuff. And just because something isn't a majority opinion doesn't disqualify it from having a warning. That just ends up catering to already overserved demographics. Like if even a few people are gonna be traumatized by a video that literally contains death, the correct response isn't to say "too bad so sad fuck you" and not tag it. Especially when the convention is to tag it. Just tag it, it costs nobody anything. And if it adds to government censorship, that's truly unfortunate, but I don't suggest we untag all NSFW content just so they can bypass that. Because that also harms the few to sate the many. In that situation, either the people on the censorship instances need to deal with that, or a compromise should be made, such as a non-tag warning. Like just putting the warning in the title. That accomplishes the actual warning whilst also giving people with the censorship laws their death videos. Everybody's happy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago (3 children) It is, and it also becomes a weapon for the growing puritan culture. But a huge explosion, that's a plane crash, where 9 people die in an accident is still NSFW. It is not a video of cute cats playing in the sun, it is a video of people fucking dying, even if you can't easily make out people bits explode in the fireball. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] redbrick@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children) Perhaps your argument would work...50 years ago? Today with trump and ubiquitous cams...this is everyday news. People getting shot in schools, and doing crazy stuff. It really brings the reality to the fore front on our existence. We are easily extinguish...and all life is precious....so we should all endeavor for peace and coexistence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) No I get it, things have absolutely changed. Things that 50 years ago would be gross and offensive today is casual or even still professional speak and vice versa. That still doesn't change the fact that I think it is and should be considered NSFW or have a caution or warning that it contains death. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] redbrick@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago I agree Caution Warning for sure... Liveleak...now that was some insane shit back in the day....The whole site should've been call NSFW! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redbrick@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children) Perhaps your argument would work...50 years ago? Today with trump and ubiquitous cams...this is everyday news. People getting shot in schools, and doing crazy stuff. It really brings the reality to the fore front on our existence. We are easily extinguish...and all life is precious....so we should all endeavor for peace and coexistence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) No I get it, things have absolutely changed. Things that 50 years ago would be gross and offensive today is casual or even still professional speak and vice versa. That still doesn't change the fact that I think it is and should be considered NSFW or have a caution or warning that it contains death. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] redbrick@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago I agree Caution Warning for sure... Liveleak...now that was some insane shit back in the day....The whole site should've been call NSFW! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 4 days ago (1 child) No I get it, things have absolutely changed. Things that 50 years ago would be gross and offensive today is casual or even still professional speak and vice versa. That still doesn't change the fact that I think it is and should be considered NSFW or have a caution or warning that it contains death. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] redbrick@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago I agree Caution Warning for sure... Liveleak...now that was some insane shit back in the day....The whole site should've been call NSFW! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redbrick@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago I agree Caution Warning for sure... Liveleak...now that was some insane shit back in the day....The whole site should've been call NSFW! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] velma@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 week ago (17 children) Fine, then throw a CW at least. You don't need to dig your heels in on insisting people should watch this death video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 18 points 1 week ago (12 children) The title saying it's a video of a plane crashing isn't a warning enough? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago Not all airplane crashes are deaths, sometimes the plane and the road exchange insurance information afterwards. permalink fedilink source parent [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (10 children) And the rules request a CW when applicable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 11 points 1 week ago (9 children) And that's not what you asked for. I conceded CW is fair enough and you continued to argue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -8 points 1 week ago* (8 children) And I thanked you at the end of our back and forth, upvoted you, and now you're back here nagging at me? What the fuck? Ah that was another user who was much more polite than you were. Nevermind. My original point still stands - this should have a CW or NSFW because it is a death video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (7 children) No you didn't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 week ago (6 children) Edited. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (5 children) How was I impolite? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (4 children) I wasn't arguing back about the CW when I maintained that, in my opinion, death videos shouldn't be pushed into people's timelines. You are arguing that people should be forced to watch this death video because the BBC shows a censored version of it. That you are digging in your heels and arguing that people should have death videos pushed into their social media feeds without a warning is at the very least impolite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (3 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? I said NSFW blocks content from being visible to many servers, implying it should only be used when the content truly fits the definition of NSFW. This is a distressing video, but not NSFW. If you don't want to risk seeing videos of this nature I think it's probably best you block this community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (2 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? Well the BBC showed an edited version, so it's totally okay to allow this on people's feeds without any warning at all /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) CW fair enough, but NSFW blocks it from several servers erroneously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 week ago Yes we already went through this, you didn't need to jump into a different conversation to tell me the exact same thing thanks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] redbrick@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 child) I agree, there should've been some warning at least. It is tragic and horrific. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago Thank you, that's the only point I was trying to make. permalink fedilink source parent [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) insisting people should watch this death video. In fairness, I don't see anyone making such assertions. On the general topic, I don't disagree with your sentiment per se, but I will also note that most news will show footage of fatal plane crashes, so I humbly suggest your view is a minority one on this. I would normally suggest there's no harm in marking it NSFW, but others noted that would censor it from some places, and so I don't think that's a great solution; otherwise I'd lend my voice in support to you anyway, even though I don't thnk it's necessary. But I appreciate you speaking up on it, even if I happen to disagree in this instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago I disagree with what the news does, then. Even if they show it, they really should say something like "this video clip is graphic and is uncensored. It contains people dying".... Nah, the more I think about what they should say, the more I think they really shouldn't show it so easily. There needs to more barrier to entry, but the more barrier to entry with them still showing it, the more I feel like them showing it at all is wrong. Like maybe if we went back to the thing where an anchor said like "this video is inappropriate for sensitive viewers" and gave 5-10 seconds of warning, followed by basically "this is your last chance to not watch". Because deep down, I think there's a part of me that is against hiding the ugly parts of life and death and trauma. I think unnecessary trauma should be avoided, but like a lot of people in here are arguing, this stuff isn't exactly uncommon. So when it comes down to it, I don't have a perfect solution for tv cable news. For fediverse, though, and the wider Internet and text based info, we have warnings like NSFW and content warnings for common rough triggers like rape or abuse or stuff that can trigger PTSD. And putting those warnings on stuff for people is just the right thing to do. Because it isn't for you, it's for other people who don't know exactly how it's going to impact them until it's too late. There are certain things you can't unsee. Like jars, horses, elbows, chainsaws, gunshots, or other stuff. And just because something isn't a majority opinion doesn't disqualify it from having a warning. That just ends up catering to already overserved demographics. Like if even a few people are gonna be traumatized by a video that literally contains death, the correct response isn't to say "too bad so sad fuck you" and not tag it. Especially when the convention is to tag it. Just tag it, it costs nobody anything. And if it adds to government censorship, that's truly unfortunate, but I don't suggest we untag all NSFW content just so they can bypass that. Because that also harms the few to sate the many. In that situation, either the people on the censorship instances need to deal with that, or a compromise should be made, such as a non-tag warning. Like just putting the warning in the title. That accomplishes the actual warning whilst also giving people with the censorship laws their death videos. Everybody's happy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 18 points 1 week ago (12 children) The title saying it's a video of a plane crashing isn't a warning enough? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago Not all airplane crashes are deaths, sometimes the plane and the road exchange insurance information afterwards. permalink fedilink source parent [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (10 children) And the rules request a CW when applicable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 11 points 1 week ago (9 children) And that's not what you asked for. I conceded CW is fair enough and you continued to argue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -8 points 1 week ago* (8 children) And I thanked you at the end of our back and forth, upvoted you, and now you're back here nagging at me? What the fuck? Ah that was another user who was much more polite than you were. Nevermind. My original point still stands - this should have a CW or NSFW because it is a death video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (7 children) No you didn't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 week ago (6 children) Edited. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (5 children) How was I impolite? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (4 children) I wasn't arguing back about the CW when I maintained that, in my opinion, death videos shouldn't be pushed into people's timelines. You are arguing that people should be forced to watch this death video because the BBC shows a censored version of it. That you are digging in your heels and arguing that people should have death videos pushed into their social media feeds without a warning is at the very least impolite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (3 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? I said NSFW blocks content from being visible to many servers, implying it should only be used when the content truly fits the definition of NSFW. This is a distressing video, but not NSFW. If you don't want to risk seeing videos of this nature I think it's probably best you block this community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (2 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? Well the BBC showed an edited version, so it's totally okay to allow this on people's feeds without any warning at all /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) CW fair enough, but NSFW blocks it from several servers erroneously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 week ago Yes we already went through this, you didn't need to jump into a different conversation to tell me the exact same thing thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago Not all airplane crashes are deaths, sometimes the plane and the road exchange insurance information afterwards. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (10 children) And the rules request a CW when applicable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 11 points 1 week ago (9 children) And that's not what you asked for. I conceded CW is fair enough and you continued to argue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -8 points 1 week ago* (8 children) And I thanked you at the end of our back and forth, upvoted you, and now you're back here nagging at me? What the fuck? Ah that was another user who was much more polite than you were. Nevermind. My original point still stands - this should have a CW or NSFW because it is a death video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (7 children) No you didn't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 week ago (6 children) Edited. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (5 children) How was I impolite? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (4 children) I wasn't arguing back about the CW when I maintained that, in my opinion, death videos shouldn't be pushed into people's timelines. You are arguing that people should be forced to watch this death video because the BBC shows a censored version of it. That you are digging in your heels and arguing that people should have death videos pushed into their social media feeds without a warning is at the very least impolite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (3 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? I said NSFW blocks content from being visible to many servers, implying it should only be used when the content truly fits the definition of NSFW. This is a distressing video, but not NSFW. If you don't want to risk seeing videos of this nature I think it's probably best you block this community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (2 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? Well the BBC showed an edited version, so it's totally okay to allow this on people's feeds without any warning at all /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) CW fair enough, but NSFW blocks it from several servers erroneously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 week ago Yes we already went through this, you didn't need to jump into a different conversation to tell me the exact same thing thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 11 points 1 week ago (9 children) And that's not what you asked for. I conceded CW is fair enough and you continued to argue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -8 points 1 week ago* (8 children) And I thanked you at the end of our back and forth, upvoted you, and now you're back here nagging at me? What the fuck? Ah that was another user who was much more polite than you were. Nevermind. My original point still stands - this should have a CW or NSFW because it is a death video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (7 children) No you didn't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 week ago (6 children) Edited. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (5 children) How was I impolite? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (4 children) I wasn't arguing back about the CW when I maintained that, in my opinion, death videos shouldn't be pushed into people's timelines. You are arguing that people should be forced to watch this death video because the BBC shows a censored version of it. That you are digging in your heels and arguing that people should have death videos pushed into their social media feeds without a warning is at the very least impolite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (3 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? I said NSFW blocks content from being visible to many servers, implying it should only be used when the content truly fits the definition of NSFW. This is a distressing video, but not NSFW. If you don't want to risk seeing videos of this nature I think it's probably best you block this community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (2 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? Well the BBC showed an edited version, so it's totally okay to allow this on people's feeds without any warning at all /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) CW fair enough, but NSFW blocks it from several servers erroneously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 week ago Yes we already went through this, you didn't need to jump into a different conversation to tell me the exact same thing thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] velma@sh.itjust.works -8 points 1 week ago* (8 children) And I thanked you at the end of our back and forth, upvoted you, and now you're back here nagging at me? What the fuck? Ah that was another user who was much more polite than you were. Nevermind. My original point still stands - this should have a CW or NSFW because it is a death video. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (7 children) No you didn't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 week ago (6 children) Edited. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (5 children) How was I impolite? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (4 children) I wasn't arguing back about the CW when I maintained that, in my opinion, death videos shouldn't be pushed into people's timelines. You are arguing that people should be forced to watch this death video because the BBC shows a censored version of it. That you are digging in your heels and arguing that people should have death videos pushed into their social media feeds without a warning is at the very least impolite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (3 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? I said NSFW blocks content from being visible to many servers, implying it should only be used when the content truly fits the definition of NSFW. This is a distressing video, but not NSFW. If you don't want to risk seeing videos of this nature I think it's probably best you block this community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (2 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? Well the BBC showed an edited version, so it's totally okay to allow this on people's feeds without any warning at all /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) CW fair enough, but NSFW blocks it from several servers erroneously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 week ago Yes we already went through this, you didn't need to jump into a different conversation to tell me the exact same thing thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (7 children) No you didn't? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 week ago (6 children) Edited. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (5 children) How was I impolite? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (4 children) I wasn't arguing back about the CW when I maintained that, in my opinion, death videos shouldn't be pushed into people's timelines. You are arguing that people should be forced to watch this death video because the BBC shows a censored version of it. That you are digging in your heels and arguing that people should have death videos pushed into their social media feeds without a warning is at the very least impolite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (3 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? I said NSFW blocks content from being visible to many servers, implying it should only be used when the content truly fits the definition of NSFW. This is a distressing video, but not NSFW. If you don't want to risk seeing videos of this nature I think it's probably best you block this community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (2 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? Well the BBC showed an edited version, so it's totally okay to allow this on people's feeds without any warning at all /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) CW fair enough, but NSFW blocks it from several servers erroneously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 week ago Yes we already went through this, you didn't need to jump into a different conversation to tell me the exact same thing thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] velma@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 week ago (6 children) Edited. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (5 children) How was I impolite? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (4 children) I wasn't arguing back about the CW when I maintained that, in my opinion, death videos shouldn't be pushed into people's timelines. You are arguing that people should be forced to watch this death video because the BBC shows a censored version of it. That you are digging in your heels and arguing that people should have death videos pushed into their social media feeds without a warning is at the very least impolite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (3 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? I said NSFW blocks content from being visible to many servers, implying it should only be used when the content truly fits the definition of NSFW. This is a distressing video, but not NSFW. If you don't want to risk seeing videos of this nature I think it's probably best you block this community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (2 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? Well the BBC showed an edited version, so it's totally okay to allow this on people's feeds without any warning at all /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) CW fair enough, but NSFW blocks it from several servers erroneously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 week ago Yes we already went through this, you didn't need to jump into a different conversation to tell me the exact same thing thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 2 points 1 week ago (5 children) How was I impolite? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (4 children) I wasn't arguing back about the CW when I maintained that, in my opinion, death videos shouldn't be pushed into people's timelines. You are arguing that people should be forced to watch this death video because the BBC shows a censored version of it. That you are digging in your heels and arguing that people should have death videos pushed into their social media feeds without a warning is at the very least impolite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (3 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? I said NSFW blocks content from being visible to many servers, implying it should only be used when the content truly fits the definition of NSFW. This is a distressing video, but not NSFW. If you don't want to risk seeing videos of this nature I think it's probably best you block this community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (2 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? Well the BBC showed an edited version, so it's totally okay to allow this on people's feeds without any warning at all /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) CW fair enough, but NSFW blocks it from several servers erroneously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 week ago Yes we already went through this, you didn't need to jump into a different conversation to tell me the exact same thing thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (4 children) I wasn't arguing back about the CW when I maintained that, in my opinion, death videos shouldn't be pushed into people's timelines. You are arguing that people should be forced to watch this death video because the BBC shows a censored version of it. That you are digging in your heels and arguing that people should have death videos pushed into their social media feeds without a warning is at the very least impolite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (3 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? I said NSFW blocks content from being visible to many servers, implying it should only be used when the content truly fits the definition of NSFW. This is a distressing video, but not NSFW. If you don't want to risk seeing videos of this nature I think it's probably best you block this community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (2 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? Well the BBC showed an edited version, so it's totally okay to allow this on people's feeds without any warning at all /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) CW fair enough, but NSFW blocks it from several servers erroneously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 week ago Yes we already went through this, you didn't need to jump into a different conversation to tell me the exact same thing thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (3 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? I said NSFW blocks content from being visible to many servers, implying it should only be used when the content truly fits the definition of NSFW. This is a distressing video, but not NSFW. If you don't want to risk seeing videos of this nature I think it's probably best you block this community. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (2 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? Well the BBC showed an edited version, so it's totally okay to allow this on people's feeds without any warning at all /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) CW fair enough, but NSFW blocks it from several servers erroneously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 week ago Yes we already went through this, you didn't need to jump into a different conversation to tell me the exact same thing thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] velma@sh.itjust.works -10 points 1 week ago (2 children) Where did I say anybody should be forced to watch anything? Well the BBC showed an edited version, so it's totally okay to allow this on people's feeds without any warning at all /s permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) CW fair enough, but NSFW blocks it from several servers erroneously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 week ago Yes we already went through this, you didn't need to jump into a different conversation to tell me the exact same thing thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago (1 child) CW fair enough, but NSFW blocks it from several servers erroneously. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] velma@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 week ago Yes we already went through this, you didn't need to jump into a different conversation to tell me the exact same thing thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] velma@sh.itjust.works -9 points 1 week ago Yes we already went through this, you didn't need to jump into a different conversation to tell me the exact same thing thanks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] redbrick@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 child) I agree, there should've been some warning at least. It is tragic and horrific. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago Thank you, that's the only point I was trying to make. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago Thank you, that's the only point I was trying to make. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 6 days ago (1 child) insisting people should watch this death video. In fairness, I don't see anyone making such assertions. On the general topic, I don't disagree with your sentiment per se, but I will also note that most news will show footage of fatal plane crashes, so I humbly suggest your view is a minority one on this. I would normally suggest there's no harm in marking it NSFW, but others noted that would censor it from some places, and so I don't think that's a great solution; otherwise I'd lend my voice in support to you anyway, even though I don't thnk it's necessary. But I appreciate you speaking up on it, even if I happen to disagree in this instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago I disagree with what the news does, then. Even if they show it, they really should say something like "this video clip is graphic and is uncensored. It contains people dying".... Nah, the more I think about what they should say, the more I think they really shouldn't show it so easily. There needs to more barrier to entry, but the more barrier to entry with them still showing it, the more I feel like them showing it at all is wrong. Like maybe if we went back to the thing where an anchor said like "this video is inappropriate for sensitive viewers" and gave 5-10 seconds of warning, followed by basically "this is your last chance to not watch". Because deep down, I think there's a part of me that is against hiding the ugly parts of life and death and trauma. I think unnecessary trauma should be avoided, but like a lot of people in here are arguing, this stuff isn't exactly uncommon. So when it comes down to it, I don't have a perfect solution for tv cable news. For fediverse, though, and the wider Internet and text based info, we have warnings like NSFW and content warnings for common rough triggers like rape or abuse or stuff that can trigger PTSD. And putting those warnings on stuff for people is just the right thing to do. Because it isn't for you, it's for other people who don't know exactly how it's going to impact them until it's too late. There are certain things you can't unsee. Like jars, horses, elbows, chainsaws, gunshots, or other stuff. And just because something isn't a majority opinion doesn't disqualify it from having a warning. That just ends up catering to already overserved demographics. Like if even a few people are gonna be traumatized by a video that literally contains death, the correct response isn't to say "too bad so sad fuck you" and not tag it. Especially when the convention is to tag it. Just tag it, it costs nobody anything. And if it adds to government censorship, that's truly unfortunate, but I don't suggest we untag all NSFW content just so they can bypass that. Because that also harms the few to sate the many. In that situation, either the people on the censorship instances need to deal with that, or a compromise should be made, such as a non-tag warning. Like just putting the warning in the title. That accomplishes the actual warning whilst also giving people with the censorship laws their death videos. Everybody's happy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago I disagree with what the news does, then. Even if they show it, they really should say something like "this video clip is graphic and is uncensored. It contains people dying".... Nah, the more I think about what they should say, the more I think they really shouldn't show it so easily. There needs to more barrier to entry, but the more barrier to entry with them still showing it, the more I feel like them showing it at all is wrong. Like maybe if we went back to the thing where an anchor said like "this video is inappropriate for sensitive viewers" and gave 5-10 seconds of warning, followed by basically "this is your last chance to not watch". Because deep down, I think there's a part of me that is against hiding the ugly parts of life and death and trauma. I think unnecessary trauma should be avoided, but like a lot of people in here are arguing, this stuff isn't exactly uncommon. So when it comes down to it, I don't have a perfect solution for tv cable news. For fediverse, though, and the wider Internet and text based info, we have warnings like NSFW and content warnings for common rough triggers like rape or abuse or stuff that can trigger PTSD. And putting those warnings on stuff for people is just the right thing to do. Because it isn't for you, it's for other people who don't know exactly how it's going to impact them until it's too late. There are certain things you can't unsee. Like jars, horses, elbows, chainsaws, gunshots, or other stuff. And just because something isn't a majority opinion doesn't disqualify it from having a warning. That just ends up catering to already overserved demographics. Like if even a few people are gonna be traumatized by a video that literally contains death, the correct response isn't to say "too bad so sad fuck you" and not tag it. Especially when the convention is to tag it. Just tag it, it costs nobody anything. And if it adds to government censorship, that's truly unfortunate, but I don't suggest we untag all NSFW content just so they can bypass that. Because that also harms the few to sate the many. In that situation, either the people on the censorship instances need to deal with that, or a compromise should be made, such as a non-tag warning. Like just putting the warning in the title. That accomplishes the actual warning whilst also giving people with the censorship laws their death videos. Everybody's happy. permalink fedilink source parent