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When USians Condemn French Protestors (lemmy.ca)
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[–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

I hate when people pull out this stupid straw man argument, "Think of the poor small businesses". Small businesses in this country are all but non existent at this point, most of them have been forced to close their doors thanks to big chains like Walmart and Target. The closest we have to small businesses in most areas are franchisees from the big chain fast food restaurants.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago

    Sorry, I thought this was relating to the French unrests. There is no Walmart in France. Have a look at the shops that were destroyed and then count how many of them are large chains and how many were local businesses.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    Eh, small businesses come in all sizes. There's a dude in town that owns ~100 houses and rents them out. He's a small business owner.

    So is the Uber driver that delivers food to those houses.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    That man is enough of a landlord that a molotov cocktail is probably justified in some way shape or form. That dude is part of the petit borgeousie for sure.

    The guy driving for Uber and getting paid by them as his employer is not a small business owner. He's a poor proletariat schmuck just like most of us.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

    On paper both are small business owners. Most truckers are, too. One sixth of truckers are, too.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    They're not. They're not at all. What do you think a small business owner even is?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (4 children)

    Someone that owns their own income generating property. I.e., a business. Which is small. Local definitions put that at either <500 employees or <7.5m operating revenue.

    I was wrong though, only ~16% of truckers are small business owners. They're the ones called "owner operators". Because they own their own truck.

    Technically, anyone filling out form 1099 come tax time is a small business owner.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Well at least you know now why a Doordash or Uber driver is decidedly not a small business owner.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    They fill out form 1099...so they are.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Dude ... I'm pretty sure there's been a ton of legal precedent set that Uber drivers are employees of Uber, same with DoorDash, and all the rest.

    Just because they're trying to say "oooh 1099 independent contractor" and hand wave away our shared reality does not make it true. I won't reply any further but if you honestly think a dude driving for DoorDash is a small business owner you're just being blatantly obstinate and obfuscating the meaning of owner.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago*

    There's been a lot of court cases, but no nationwide precedent set. Even the states that have additional protections don't blanket classify Uber drivers as employees.

    That's kind of the whole point of the Uber situation. Right now, they are considered small business owners doing freelance contracts. Uber is intentionally using this to cut operating costs and avoid paying their workers.

    Unfortunately, that is the reality, and Gavin newsome saying it's wrong, even in a formal executive order sense, means nothing.

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