I saw this post titled "Scratch a anti-harm reductionist and a fascist bleeds" (https://lemmy.world/post/33320759)

I commented that "harm reduction" apparently means sending billions in weapons to israel while they commit genocide and shutting down campus protests speaking out against that genocide. I said that seemed pretty fascist to me.

Within an instant, they downvoted my post and banned me. Guess it's my fault for posting in a circlejerk community, but I'm still scratching my head on how that makes me a tankie. Something tells me this mod would be calling in the tanks to suppress any dissent if they could.

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[–] 51 points 1 year ago (61 children)

Looks like @PugJesus@lemmy.world has been going on a rampage against people who are critical of Israel lately, PTB for sure.

@goat@sh.itjust.works Might want to kick this mod out of your community since he's poisoning it for others and kicking out people he shouldn't be.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (27 children)

    Idk, if he didn't kick our pj before why would goat do it now.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (26 children)

    Pug and I had a falling out, and he stepped down but retained his moderator role. If you check the modlog you can see he hasn't acted in quite a while until just recently

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    Why not remove him if he's causing more issues for you?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (23 children)

    Having an unhinged narcissist as a mod is not ideal for any community.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    No idea who Davel is but I have seen numerous bans by PugJesus recently for made up reasons. Usually "tankie" etiquette, by which he means anyone left of center, quite literally. Sometimes "sexual assault denier" by which he means people disagreeing with Israeli propaganda lies. To makes it worse he bans in unrelated communities because someone disagreed with him.

    He is not capable of being a moderator.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (14 children)

    I can't comment since I haven't seen any bans by him. Not sure how it is relevant here either.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (12 children)

    Ok, clearly not acceptable. But I still don't see much relevance to this thread?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

    I glanced over and I am finding his views much more concerning.

    Still that is really not relevant. I am sure there is plenty of crap moderators out there. I am finding PugJesus particularly bad after revenge ban in unrelated community after an argument in completly different community. He should be removed straight away after that.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I've since removed him, yeah.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Thanks, I believe it was the right decision. Funnily enough, I don't have many issues with PugJesus views at all. It is his moderation which is a problem.

    Pretty much opposite to the other example you gave where I have major issues with this person views. His moderation merely follows this ideological pattern, that's all.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Admittedly, I haven't read all thread you linked but I haven't noticed anything personal in his bans. He seems to follow his ideological line.

    Now, I strongly disagree with his excuses for Russian aggression, denial of attempted genocide of Ukrainians, attempt to whitewash Tienanmen massacre etc. But when he bans/deletes/etc it looks like he does it because he is trying to hide facts inconvenient to the regimes he supports. Not because someone argued with him in a different thread about something completely unrelated.

    In another words, his moderation is completely unsurprising for his dictatorship-supporting instance and a reason I tend to not wander into tankie part of Lemmyverse.

    It appears to be a completely different issue to PugJesus.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    But how else could Goat deflect blame?

    Pug is his friend. They must use Whataboutism to deflect blame!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Pug's not my friend, you nincompoop. Nor am I deflecting blame.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Yeah it's not a good look that Tankie now means "I don't like genocide". Just further dissolves the word's meaning and enables .ml and hexbear to do more things.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Yeah it’s not a good look that Tankie now means “I don’t like genocide”.

    It's what it's meant on lemmy, particularly .world, for a while now. centrists just use it like (other) republicans use "woke."

    It means "this person has an opinion I know I'm morally wrong about. I don't want to change my position but I also don't want to look bad, so I'll pick a term I can't define and use it as a cudgel against them."

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Well when people get banned for being anti-genocide and war as "Tankie" what does it mean?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

    I'll investigate later, thanks for the ping. I've since unbanned some of the users, such as @hark@lemmy.world, the others I'm still investigating and some are also spam

    I'm fine with people sharing different views, even if they're controversial. Tankies are also allowed to comment in the community, as long as everyone follows the rules and is mutually respectful towards each other, feel free to engage.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Wasn't gonna bother until after I saw this, but looks like PJ gave me a ban for clarifying UN reporting on sexual assault.

    Didn't think I was posting anything spicy but you never know the crowd.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    That sounds like .word mods, banning people for proving them wrong.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Yea, seems likely

    That bucket guy said 'rape of Jews on October 7th was widespread', and the 'widespread' part fucking got to me.

    Not that it's a huge difference but I couldn't stand that guy running around citing that UN report that said it found 'reasonable grounds to believe sexual violence occurred', which is a fucking far cry from 'rape was widespread'

    But, if I were to be charitable, i could see a mod coming in cold to that conversation just assuming the worst. But im pretty sure it was pug, if the 'sort by mod' function is accurate.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It most likely is, check this community. He's banned people for calling him out on unrelated communities .

    Pug is mentally unwell and lashes out at people wanting something better in the world.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I was addressing someone saying that 'rapes of jewish women were widespread', which to my ears is an unfounded characterization of a report which went to great lengths not to say anything half as definitive. If anyone in that thread was guilty of apologia or revisionism, it sure as fuck wasn't me.

    But you're right, this isn't the place to argue about it. Do what you want.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    @hark@lemmy.world , could you maybe add a "ban reserved" or something in the title?

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