Realization [PizzaCake] (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] 1 point 1 month ago (5 children)

No!

I am not one of the people who say you can't possibly give consent while under the influence BUT everyone has the obligation to NOT DO anything to a person that they might not like.

If you fuck a drunk person and than that person says you raped them you did not make sure they were able to really consent.

For this specific case you don't seem to have the empathy to understand, a person who is so drunk that they were not able to consent in the first place than them saying yes or no to specific acts has like no meaning at all.

If you have ever been blackout drunk you should be able to imagine that saying no or yes really loses all meaning in that situation.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    Your logic fails miserably on the fact the the guys were drunk too. If your logic applies, she also raped them. But of course, they are male, so I guess that is not a problem in your head.

    PS: Also, we as society don't accept alcohol as an excuse in any other context. You were drunk and someone convinced you to drive? Prison for you. You were drunk and interpreted something as consent that wasn't? Straight to prison. But you gave consent while drunk? That is everyone elses problem. The poor you can't be responsible for your choices cause you were drunk. Everyone else needs to go to prison, for not doing alcohol and drug tests before accepting a clear "yes" as consent. Ridiculous.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    You making up a different version of events from what I described and then convincing yourself I am a bad person based on that despite me clearly stating what I was referring to makes you a shitty person, not me. If she did not consent to explicit images being taken and/or distributed, those are crimes. If people she did not consent to fucked her, that is rape. No one is disputing that. You are just attacking me based on your own delusions or poor reading comprehension.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    No, you're ignoring the "and then that person says you raped them part." There's no indication from before, during, or after they raped her that she coerced the men into something they didn't want.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    So you admit it's just the regret after that makes it a rape in your mind? Besides, if it had any legal meaning, I am sure they would be saying that to get out of trouble. But it doesn't, because that would be stupid. Someone regretting they agreed after can't be criminal, because you have no way of knowing the future. How the fuck would you ever be able to act on consent, if that person can just change their mind later and make it a crime.

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