But in Canada you may have to wait to see a doctor! Checkmate socialists!

I bring it up a lot but the book "dying of whiteness" was a horrifying look into this. A significant amount of people don't want national health care, even if it means they themselves get sick and die, because then those people would get it.

The money facts don't matter. It's just emotional sludge.

A good part of the reason public health expenditure is so much higher in the US is because public healthcare doesn't generally cover healthy people. Medicare exclusively covers seniors and disabled people for instance.

If we just expanded coverage to everyone, we'd probably be instantly on par with other public health systems on a cost-per-patient basis.

The thing people don't realize is that we already have universal healthcare, but in a stupid, cruel way. A hospital will treat anybody, but they'll go into debt for the amount they "should" have paid, while everyone who does pay already pays for those who can't.

Also - If anyone reading this is uninsured and needs medical attention - get treatment and ignore the bills. Medical debt might as well be imaginary. It's essentially ignored by credit bureaus. Hospitals sell it off to debt collectors who will try to get you to pay, but just end up selling it off again and again until it goes away 99.99% of the time.

Don't ignore something potentially serious over financial concerns.

The White House recently posted that it would cost $35,500 per household per year to enact Medicare for All.

Obviously, that's total horseshit, but that's the attitude we are fighting.

You forgot about the IHS (second only to the VA in size), honestly one of the best kept secrets in the US… if all the MAGAts knew their tax dollars were going to give Native Americans universal healthcare there would probably be riots on the streets.

For real though, between all those programs there are already like 40 million people on a universal type healthcare system, I’ve never understood why we can just extend it to everybody.

We know it, thanks for the figures though, I will write this down. I don't want to bother you for a source, but if I cite these figures elsewhere I would need one, and I will, cite these figures if I am able.

Buh then they won't want to work. 🤣