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Ghislaine meeting with the DOJ today for a chat (lemmy.world)
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[–] 44 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Pardoning Maxwell would be an insanely bad idea. The MAGA world love two things more than anything else; conspiracy theories, and imagining themselves in an endless war against a cabal of powerful pedophiles.

Maxwell directly aided and abetted one of those powerful pedophiles. To MAGA, there is no possible justification for pardoning her. It would be tantamount to a full admission from Trump, and it would send their conspiracy addled minds into overdrive. At best (for him), they'd wonder what kind of leverage she has over Trump in order to buy herself a pardon. If not evidence of pedophilia, then surely something else, right?

Is Maxwell angling for a pardon? Almost certainly. But giving her one would be a suicidal move for the administration right now.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (13 children)

    Well I mean bottom line is, it's a damned if he does damned if he doesn't situation.

    She gets killed, that's insane fuel to the fire.

    Trump pardons her... that's as good as admitting they are working together.

    She actually tells what she knows, trumps fucked.

    So... if you ask me based on a raw strategy... the DOJ is going to let the sweetheart deal appeal happen, and maxwell will comit perjury, say she happened to be in some of the places trump was, but never were that close and that trump always considered epstein a creep and kicked them out of marlago.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    He doesn’t have to go as far as pardoning her. It can be a plea deal type of thing. That will require some level of cooperation from the courts, which is probably what they are negotiating right now. She has no leverage to make threats (“pardon me or I’ll expose you”) because her life is already forfeit, as Epstein’s death shows. So she’ll go along with even a weak deal like a long prison stance but under more comfortable conditions, with perhaps some assurances she won’t suddenly commit suicide.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Even better for MAGA, they can have her lie and name a bunch of their favorite punching bags. Suddenly, the cabal will have been led by Obama, Biden, Sanders, AOC, George Soros, Nancy Pelosi, etc. It will fuel their rage.

    Lots of everyday people won't believe it, of course. But that's the brilliance. Their MO is to attack the concept of objective truth. Throw enough bullshit accusations of participation in Epsteins's crimes out there, and the real perps will be shielded by the collective doubt surrounding any accusations of child rape.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    the cabal will have been led by Obama, Biden, Sanders, AOC, George Soros, Nancy Pelosi, etc.

    Fun fact: there's a theory that the word "cabal" was originally an acronym formed from the last names of Sir Thomas Clifford, Lord Arlington, the Duke of Buckingham, Lord Ashley and Lord Lauderdale, a group of ministers for King Charles II of England (it may just be that the word became popular because of this acronymic coincidence). So in your example, it would be an obsasp.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    obscsp if going purely by last names then

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's not purely last names, though. The Duke of Buckingham's last name was Villiers but he was commonly called "Buckingham". AOC most commonly goes by "AOC" so the "a" works.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Right, I think the of system kinda makes you forget these people have real names too. I certainly often do

    Anyway apparently the word comes from the hebrew kaballah which is sad

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    AOC is not a reasonable target. She never had money or power. I don't think anyone would believe Sanders. Everyone else I think is a possible target.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Unbelievable is the point.

    Cast doubt on any Epstein accusations.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Lying under oath means more prison, not less.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Absolutely... in a world where the justice system is impartial and a consistent adherence to the law is judged rather than who appointed the judge.

    That being said, I would say it's more practical to make unprovable claims, not provably false claims.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    My MiL is deep MAGA. The only thing true is that whatever the outcome, she will regurgitate the Trump talking points. They could tell her Maxwell was a secret agent for Trump in the 90s, and she would buy it.

    I don’t know if you’re close to anyone MAGA, but it is truly a blind cult. The Right just needs to find a palpable enough angle to spin.

    I think more dangerous for this regime is other people know what’s on the list. She’s not the only one.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Suicidal how? It's not like the modern republican party, at least those in congress, is likely to impeach their own president, and seeing as he's term limited, if Trump got another term, he would have had to throw out the constitution completely and unambiguously to do it, at which point he could simply throw out the "election" part too.

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