The research community is in uproar after OpenAI released a trove of more than 700 mathematical preprints entirely generated by AI on 6 October. The San Francisco, California-based maker of ChatGPT posted the preprints on the software repository Github.

Although some mathematicians celebrated the solution of longstanding problems, others took to social media to complain about being scooped. Some were incensed at what one physicist called a ‘slopocalypse’, even if the mathematical content could end up being formally correct.

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[–] 11 points 1 month ago* (20 children)

Can someone please explain to a non-mathematician what the issue is specifically?

We all want the problems solved, right? Is there a wrong way to solve them? Or a process that people are supposed to follow not to “scoop” others? A honor system of sorts?

If a human dropped the same 700 solutions online, would it still be bad?

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  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    There are two issues really - one is a perception that they're not vetting any of this output, just dumping it out on the internet and expecting real mathematicians to actually check it all, so yes if a human was doing the same thing it'd probably still be suspect.

    The other is the widely held suspicion that much of the "breakthrough" mathematics here has been stolen from real researchers who've been using chatgpt to develop their theories by talking to it

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I think a mathematician with no skin in the game should just make a big post saying "All 700 are wrong, no I am not going to show my work, if you disagree prove which one you think is right" put the ball back in OpenAI's court.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 weeks ago

    Maybe instead they should just generate slop counterproofs for every single one. Then everyone defending OpenAI's dump will have to either read through all the shit or acknowledge that it's not worth the effort to verify slop.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I need an account to access that.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 month ago

    The other is the widely held suspicion that much of the “breakthrough” mathematics here has been stolen from real researchers who’ve been using chatgpt to develop their theories by talking to it

    I think that was just some rumor. In the end the accusation was that they basically brute-forced a solution using methods developed by someone else and claimed they solved it but those methods were public, not stolen because they used ChatGPT.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    It is a lot of stuff from an unreliable source that basically vomits out stuff that looks correct but is often not and that is a ton of human work to verify that humans were already in the process of doing.

    It is most likely just the stuff humans were close to finishing being scooped up and spit out and not reliably correct.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    There's an onus now on those that care about math to check the proofs. If errors are found in one their might be similar errors in another. A serial release would have been cleaner and allowed commentary that might help improve the accuracy or perhaps even the way the model conveyed the data to make it more understandable / digestable.

    Openai dug the problems up from somewhere. They could have collaborated with some of the people that defined the problems in the first place. This is just perpetuation of their culture of theft.

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