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[–] 126 points 1 month ago (38 children)

The far right criticises the Dems as much as the left.

You 100% have to make it clear where the critique comes from.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 month ago (19 children)

    Criticism is not evaluated by where it comes from, but by whether it's true or false. If you don't put truth first, you don't get to have a say in anything anyway.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    MAGA criticizes the Dems for being too far left. I criticize the Dems for being too far right.

    We are not the same.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    The source does matter. I won't support a MAGAt just because they bash the Dems.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Then that makes you just another tribalist

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    what kinda idiot lets themselves be concern trolled in 2026

    like a good argument is valid regardless of source but republicans and their cognitive dissonance, double standards and general bad faith arguments means sitting through their bullshit in hopes of one is just silly

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Sure but that's not the point. If someone gives good criticism, that criticism is good.

    If you don't believe that, you're a tribalist.

    The world gets better when everyone acknowledges and fixes their problems when they're pointed out. It doesn't matter at all whether it's a good person or a bad person that points them out, what a gift it is for someone to show you your flaws.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Nope, I just don't accept criticism (or anything else really) from people who can't even form a coherent thought and are just regurgitating sound snippets from pundits...

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The issue is the amount of bad faith critique levelled by people on the right. Supporting one of their valid criticisms without mentioning that they are normally full of shit appears like a blanket endorsement even though they may bring up only a single good point it’ll be seen as complete support.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Ya sure but that isn't really what your comment was saying which was more along the lines of "ignore all criticism until you know where it came from".

    Anyways, if the criticism is valid, you are just plugging your ears at that point.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Motivation and context matters because if you don't pay attention to them you risk ending up an accessory to some asshole's motte-and-bailey fallacy in progress.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago

    Humans evaluate facts by the source. People trust their in-group. Someone is far more likely to listen to someone they trust and perceive as in-group than someone who's out-group, regardless of the facts.

    Sometimes this makes sense. If a guy in a nazi uniform told me the bar down the street is a great time, I'm probably not going to go there.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago*

    The primary difference is that Republicunts completely discount any thing that is left wing as impossible to achieve, often by using circular logic that boils down to a faulty appeal to authority (religion), with a light sprinkling of racism and white superiority rhetoric mixed in.

    Leftists actually use verifiable data points and publically available economic figures mixed with objective reasoning to levy their critiques.

    Reading comprehension includes understanding the implied context of the words, not just being able to pronounce them properly.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Would depend on the content of the critique Id think, like, if your criticism of the dems is that theyre far too conservative, thats not the sort of thing that someone that considers conservatism a good thing would say. If you give some vague attack on their moral character or intelligence or such, that lines up more with how the right would also criticism them, and therefore invites more confusion.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Hence why I said that your criticism should make it obvious where you stand.

    I'm not saying that you need to put "fuck the GOP too" next to every criticism. But if all you say is "fuck the Dems for ruining the country", it's not obvious where you stand.

    "Fuck the Dems for being too conservative" on the other hand makes it obvious.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Both sides criticize them for being elitist and corrupt.

    How do you distinguish between left and right, when the right have been brainwashed into thinking their side is the one "draining the swamp"?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    That's a valid point. However it's usually made clear by the next sentence out of their mouth. Like there's an election around me that's the same thing. The Republicans keep making ads about how corrupt and elitist the Democratic candidate is and they are 100% correct. However I ain't voting for a republican if I'm worried about corruption. That's their policy.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    We criticize them for vastly different things though… The right says they’re communists and we say they’re not communist enough (or at all, really).

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Problem is that not all critique is equal. Someone can just barf in "dems suck" into an online argument, and that won't tell which side of the aisle they're on...

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    in a discussion about why democrats suck, talking about, republicans are not relevant at all. if someone makes a valid argument it does not matter if they are a republican.

    “the dnc only back establishment candidates and will actively hurt progressive candidates even to ensure a republican victory” has nothing to do with republicans, and you can assume that i would make the same complaint of the republicans

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It's easy to tell as the right's criticism is they eat babies, they're demon spawn, welfare queens, nothing true just emotionally applied rhetoric. Where as the left would say they're barely better than Republicans in regards to wars and keeping them going in perpetuity, they could pass universal healthcare instead of what the ACA was but through either naivety or incompetence reached out to Republicans to help make a plan "both parties would be happy with" for the Republicans not to vote for it at all.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Eh, universal healthcare got side shuffled by the insurance company consultants and thus got us the ACA, a compromised deal if ever there was one. We really need universal healthcare, but the Herbalife grifters wouldn’t then have as much ways to peddle their MLM.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yes, this screenshot is just another “If you don’t understand my unqualified opinion you’re just too stupid to figure it out” hot take by someone thinking they’re the smartest person in the room.

    No, criticizing the dems doesn’t automatically mean criticism of anyone to the right of them.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Maybe you do. Anyone with a brain realizes real criticism from fake and manufactured criticism.

    If you are too dumb to realize it, or worried about those too dumb to realize it, write your own posts. No offense but you are wrong headed and I don't care how many half wits endorsed your point here.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yeeeah, you won't be winning any arguments with an immediate ad hominem. Off to the blocklist fuck ye

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Good riddance. The last thing I want is to argue with some well minded individual that sincerely believes the dem establishment is the way out of our situation.

    How many times do you have to be wrong before you admit a mistake. That's rhetorical, I don't care what you think now.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The other thing is that some people seem to only drag dems and anyone main stream calls “progressive.”

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