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[–] 84 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Not current, but a possible counter point would have been Nelson Mandela.

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  • [–] [S] 37 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I had a longer title in mind that said there was a small chance of it being a great thing, but a much higher chance of it being a really, really bad thing

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I think you could save this one still. People knew his name before he was elected leader because he was imprisoned by his racist government. That's not really a good thing.

    Aung San Suu Kyi, for a short time while in power before she tolerated genocide on her watch, would have sort of fit in the Mandela category as well.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago*

    Ok, Ho Chi Minh, and the one thing that the guy who oversaw crimes against humanity and slavery against Uncle Ho's people was known for was good. The other things Charles De Gaul did, not so much.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Ghandi, Abraham Lincoln, and Queen Elizabeth were known for their positive contributions

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Abraham Lincoln for their positive contribution

    Whole world knows his name

    No? He was a leader during USA civil war, nothing noteworthy on the world scale. He was for freeing some slaves, but famously not his.

    Roosevelt, yes, that guy is more known for their contribution.

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