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God forbid carbrains actually plan around a regularly scheduled weekend event (files.catbox.moe)
submitted 1 month ago by to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world
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This is from a regularly scheduled Everglades Bike Club weekend ride in Key Biscayne, USA, on a 10km stretch of road, and all the drivers know to expect it will be there in the mornings.

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[+] -37 points 1 month ago (17 children)

Eh, nobody was endangered. I'd criticize leaving tracks in the grass, but they're barely there.

I have to ride on soft shoulders to get by buses, cars, and construction vehicles fairly regularly, as long as its done safely and non-destructively, I see no issue.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Whoa there, your American is showing.

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  • [+] -13 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Tell me you've never left the "always the same map" area without telling me you've never lived outside the "always the same map" area.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Besides, what kind of retort is this?

    How do you know I'm not in Brazil at the moment?

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Because if you were you'd certainly have had toor seen other people ride on medians or sidewalks to pass dumptrucks or cars or whatever going at 5kmh and not endangere anyone.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Aha, my mistake! I see now. This would only happen in the areas erased from your map.

    Or the ones that aren't? Please elaborate.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago*

    Kinda, its incredibly common to have to pass cars, construction vehicles, old folks on mobility scooters, tuktuks, whatever by using the shoulder outside the drawn sections of the map.

    Here's some cows I had to go around because they were using the road yesterday.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Until he hits a wet or soft spot and spins out into the crowd.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Now imagine one of the riders falling, and the clusterfuck that will cause.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Did anyone see that dash cam of the james wehr crash that happened recently...

    Imagine if this idiot had that same situation happen to them while they were illgally driving off road.... just fiery death of like 25 cyclists and them and their side chick in that car all because theybwanted to be an asshole....

    FuckCars

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Good thing that's not what he was doing.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Yeah, accidents famously never happen! Why do we even waste money on guardrails and safety infrastructure? It's never been needed because every driver always has perfect control of their vehicle.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The driver is clearly paying attention and not bothering anyone. There are infinitely more common and dangerous behaviors, such as street parking near traffic lights I will condemn before I complain about someone taking a detour to get around an obstruction.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    99.99% of drivers can't be trusted to drive on grass at speed. I don't care how much attention they're paying. It's very easy to lose traction and control on a surface like grass. Frequently drivers lose control on pavement! You can be doing everything well and still end up sliding out. Unless this is a rally driver or something then no, this is not good.

    Again, accidents are not on purpose. They just happen. We should be doing everything we can to keep drivers in conditions where accidents are less likely. Driving at speed on grass next to a large group of bikers that don't have the protection of a vehicle is not that. If you can't understand that then you're a lost cause and you probably shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel of a vehicle.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Hot take: Accidents don't just happen. They can be due to lack of skill, judgement, maintaince, road conditions/design, and calling car crashes accidents as if they're beyond people's control only serves to help the responsible parties dodge consequences of their actions.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Yes, many times they are under people's control. It's still accidental. Things like driving annoyed, at speed, on grass, next to a bunch of bikers, are things that are under a driver's control to avoid doing to prevent causing an accident.

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