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From what I'm reading, most/almost all of you are posting with well intentions. (media.piefed.social)
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Which is why it's a shame to see you fight each other as if that isn't the case.

I would wholeheartedly recommend reading How To Win Friends And Influence People (or at least this summary). Especially if you're trying to convince people to vote in the midterms.

Elmo (people discussing US midterms here) choosing between fruits (trying to understand before making their point) and cocaine (infighting and proving each other wrong at all cost).
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[–] 5 points 1 month ago (31 children)

That is what you want? Holy cow.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (20 children)

    For things to stop actively getting worse? Yes. That is what I want.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    if only we could get rid of the right wing party that postures as left wing party and prevents all movement to the left

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (16 children)

    Worse for who, you or kids in Gaza?

    I give zero fucks about one of these.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    To be clear, I will always prioritize my own country and the people in it.

    To be even more clear, the rapist we got is WAY worse for Gaza than ANY Dem candidate would have been.

    So every dipshit that chose to stay home or vote for a candidate that couldn't win literally condoned the WORST possible scenario for the kids in Gaza.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (12 children)

    I will never see the world through your chauvinistic lens. Human rights are universal.

    Your supposed rights and liberties are just selective privileges enjoyed on the backs of the oppressed.

    I can't believe your making quantitative allowances for genocide. Wow.

    You deserve everything you permit onto others. And I really do hope you get it.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    I can't believe your making quantitative allowances for genocide. Wow.

    Well not making them just made the quantities bigger. The problem with equating evils because they only differ by "degree", is that it only peels off the voters who care about qualitative genocide, which tend to be those who vote against the greater quantitative genocide. The inevitable result is the total lack of qualitative reduction, and the quantitative increase of genocide.

    The actual people who make up that quantitative increase do not deserve that which you've permitted them. I had really hoped they wouldn't get it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Dude. STFU.

    More people died under Biden and you still won't STFU.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Yeah no, I don't think you have any evidence to show that. You're just making things up.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    OMFG, this something you could easily look up if you're weren't such a buffoon or shameless liar.

    While the genocide is ongoing, the worst atrocities happened under Biden, with Biden's weapons, all while Biden spread debunked blood libel lies from his campaign podium about "beheaded babies in ovens" that he "saw with his own eyes".

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2824%2902678-3/fulltext

    Go eat some crayons and take a nap.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    The numbers are slightly higher because Biden had the beginning. Pareto principle, they got all the easy genocide done up front. It's not like the numbers are lower now because support has reduced, because support has only increased.

    Show me a reduction in direct US support. The US isn't directly killing Palestinians, that's Israel. The US is providing the money and weapons Israel uses, so track the money and weapons, not the deaths.

    Is the US providing more, or less, money and weapons to Israel now, or under Biden?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (6 children)

    I guess I'm google. Fuck me. Right? Biden: $17.9 BILLION Trump: $11.1 BILLION

    And every administration before has sent an average of $3-4BILLION every year to maintain the occupation, with about the same going to the Egyptian dictatorship to maintain the occupation on the other side of the border.

    Also, nearly 100,000 died in the height of the genocide under Biden, many lost in rubble to never be identified. While the genocide is still unfolding, 1,400 have died since Trump pulled the leash on Netanyahu with his supposed ceasefire.

    You're just making up whatever sounds truthy to you.

    My guy, you are just Blue MAGA. America was NEVER great, not with Trump, not before Trump.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    I guess I'm google. Fuck me. Right? Biden: $17.9 BILLION Trump: $11.1 BILLION

    Clearly you aren't because Google puts Trump at over $21 billion. So yeah, exactly my point. Just make up numbers that sound truthy to you so you can pretend your stupid, selfish actions didn't help make things worse.

    My guy I'm not "blue MAGA" , you're just regular MAGA whether you know it or not. At no point did I say anything about greatness, but you have to pretend I did because my actual point makes you look stupid and selfish. Stop making shit up, it's pathetic.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I said since Biden, and several billion a year going back decades under all administrations. I'm sorry math is hard for you.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Yes, several billion a year under every administration. Which means your vote, or lack thereof, did not help Gaza. I don't know why this is so difficult for you to wrap your head around. You can draw all the lines in the sand you want, but unless your actions are actually making a positive difference it's just moral masturbation, and it's making you go blind.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    A positive difference would be letting the U.S. fall, not bolster it with false legitimacy like you're advocating for.

    It must be hard for you to imagine.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Again, you're just making shit up. Absolutely no evidence that your goal will have the outcome you want, or that your actions will even bring about that goal. Purely vibes-based geopolitics.

    You're not a serious adult. But sure, keep deluding yourself into believing you're not making things worse, just do it silently so you don't infect others with your nonsense.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Want is different from "can have". One tick to the right in that picture here means 0.5 degrees of extra warming. 3 ticks means another catastrophic war. So yeah, let's just stop it from moving rather than attack the only thing that can stop it.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    There was war happening under Biden. There was genocide happening under Biden.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    This might shock you, but Biden wasn't president of Earth. And he actually brought our troops home from the Middle East until The Rapist sent them back. He also openly expressed disapproval of Israel's actions, floated arms shipment cancellations, and tried to broker a peace deal.

    Did he do enough? Nah. But you seem to have some imaginary concept of Joe Biden.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago*

    I'm shocked at how stupid you are. Yes.

    Biden brought troops home from Afghanistan, which is NOT in the Middle East, and only after he was an ardent supporter of the occupation for TWO FUCKING DECADES.

    If he's not President of Earth" then why did Biden bend over backward to arm a genocide on the other side of the world? If he was soOOOOooo sad about it then why did he do it? Why did he consistently repeat debunked blood libel lies about "beheaded babies in ovens" from his campaign podium? He said he saw it with his "own eyes"!!! He's a pathological liar, and has been for his entire career. It only got worse with senility.

    AM I really imagining this or do you have your head up your ass?

    Here's a picture if that helps you understand what the Presidents of Earth have been up to.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (5 children)

    Disingenuous, they clearly state they believe it is the best we can hope to achieve, not that it is what they want. I don't think they're correct, but this is a bad faith reading. Avoid this in the future for stronger left cohesion.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    No, that is not how it works. If I want a filthy street to be clean, then not adding more trash is not a solution. You have to actually remove existing trash. Voting the same party again that has failed people now and in the past is simply not the solution. If you vote shit instead of garbage because shit is at least compositing... the street stays filthy.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Voting the same party again that has failed people now and in the past is simply not the solution.

    It is in a federal election since no 3rd party can win a federal election. Literally.

    If you want to vote for something other than Dems or Repubs in local elections, even though no 3rd party is putting forth any effort to be viable in that arena either, then go for it and I'll be cheering for you. If you want to pull that shit in a federal election. Well, time to return to school and receive a better education.

    The most popular 3rd party candidate in the 2024 election received 0.5% of the total votes cast.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    You do not vote anything that would actually change things.l because that is not going to happen anyway, since nobody votes them. Oh there is an easy solution mate, not sure if I should tell you.

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