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[–] 176 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (53 children)

Brave's CEO is a homophobic Trump supporter. No thanks.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    That's the logic of as long as it benefits ME I don't care and I support them no matter what they do. This same logic has been applied to all the shitty things done in history like slavery, war and so forth, and the reason the world is the way it is.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Of course that's not possible, the issue here is being aware and not caring and in some cases supporting it for convenience and selfishness.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    In my country, one of the most successful supermarkets is run by a fascist and he uses part of his fortune to finance our local fascist party, which is gaining strength every year by the way. Do we support fascism by buying in that supermarket? What if we suddenly started to boycott the supermarket to hell?

    My point is that they earn profits by using their services and in today's society money is power. And from where the CEO got his power? From the millions of people with the mindset of "if it benefits me I don't care".

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    "I'll support fascism as long as it's convenient for me"

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If fascism was a passive philosophy that didn't hurt anyone then you might have a point. But as you can see recently it's extremely dangerous and ruins lives.

    You may not want to mingle with politics, but it doesn't have the same view.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    He invented JavaScript, so definitely don't use that either. For real. JavaScript sucks.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Does he run/have power over JavaScript right now?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    No, not directly. Not any more than your average tech leader who goes to conferences and discusses it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    I need a better option then. What can yall suggest?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Sure I use that too but you should have at least one chromium based browser for certain features though.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I personally haven't had to use a chromium browser for anything yet since my swith to Firefox. Only to test a render bug in chromium that Google hasn't bothered to fix in over 9 years for a case that works correctly in every other browser.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Why should you? What are these certain features?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yes some tools do not work with Firefox. It‘s a niche but I‘ve run into it a few times just recently. For example with a gamepad enabler tool where Firefox simply won‘t be able to see your USB input.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The thing is, Firefox follows web standards. Chrome doesn’t always and websites put in custom code that works only with Chrome.

    I’d rather use the browser that follows standards.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Mozilla also has many problems

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    Most problems are because of how Mozilla works. According to some devs, they gatekeep some contributions and they don't really act and communicate with the community like FOSS projects are expected to. They also spend a lot of money on some - useless - stuff. They're really slow to improve their software and Firefox defaults with some questionable stuff (regular pings, Google bullshit...)

    The Better bird dev talks a bit about this, and you also have some other resources: https://youtu.be/ugnOM2mzgNU (I don't remember every link and everything I've seen but this should be a good start)

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  • [+] -18 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    What does that have to do with the browser? Last I checked, browsers aren't transphobic.

    You do you, but I personally refuse to make product choices based on the person who makes it. Brave is the least bad chromium browser, so I use it as a backup to my main Gecko-based browser. I'm not a fan of Mozilla either, but that's irrelevant since I pick my software based on what it does, not based on the management of the company that builds it.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Brave is the least bad chromium browser

    It's pretty sleazy. Ungoogled Chromium or Vivaldi are probably less sleazy, if at all.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I‘m not even pro Brave but all that ad stuff is opt-in so it doesn‘t matter as long as you don‘t want to see ads. The arguments in this thread are starting to just loop in circles. Essentially using Brave is fine if you stick to the default. There‘s no sleazy stuff if you don‘t enable it and the CEO also doesn‘t make a dime from you if that‘s something you‘re concerned about. You could of course use a different chromium browser if you want but it‘s virtually the same thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    The only two there that bother me are the affiliate code thing (reminds me of the Honey drama) and installing extra software without consent. The first was a bad call and probably related with how their ad replacement stuff works (if anything, they should merely axe affiliate links; Firefox has that as an option), and this"solution" to the latter is pretty odd to me:

    reinstall the browser without admin rights

    Why would a browser need admin rights in the first place? I haven't used Windows in well over a decade, so I don't think that particular one would be an issue for me.

    The rest can be grouped as:

    • bugs - bug fixes generally don't get prioritized until enough users complain; I would be very picky if I was an at risk person (activist or whatever) and would probably only use Tor browser
    • opt-in services
    • their marketing department

    My options for chromium browsers are:

    • something with ineffective ad blocking
    • Opera - I used it before it became a chromium browser, then it went downhill; not FOSS
    • Brave, with all its warts

    Since ad blocking and FOSS are my prerequisites, Brave basically wins by default.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Just block with unlock 🙉 why choose browser based on a ad block feature that is worse (injecting own ads/adware and therefore trying to dictate who is allowed to grab your attention) than the ad blocking extension?

    I recommend Firefox, due to best compatibility with uBlock (fuck manifest v3) and additionally have a DNS filter in your network, like pihole or adguard.

    On the go, use wireguard VPN to always be digitally home, and get your ads blocked (as well as tracking organisations) like that.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I would not choose to use a product made by people I disagree with but leaving that aside:

    Is it the least bad? Why not degoogled chrome? Or chromium? Even vivaldi seems like a better choice.

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  • Ad blocking mostly. That's literally all I need in a chromium browser, because I only use it on a handful of sites that don't work properly in Firefox.

    Chromium is also okay, but no ad blocker. I have that installed as well in the really unlikely case that the ad blocker gets in the way.

    99% of my browsing is on a Firefox browser, and 99% of the rest is on Brave. I use it so infrequently the "time saved" metric is a merely seconds.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I don't like Mozilla either, but here are my priorities in a web browser:

    1. FOSS
    2. Privacy tools - includes ad blocking; I'd actually be okay with ads if they didn't track me
    3. Promotes open web standards - rendering engine diversity is critical here, I don't want a repeat of the IE era
    4. Security
    5. Performance

    Firefox ticks all of them, and my issues with Mozilla as an org don't really come into play. I use a fork on my phone, but I use Firefox on my laptop and desktop because I trust the binaries coming from my Linux distribution maintainers (part of 4).

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Good for you. I actively refuse to use it or any of its derivatives to avoid endorsing Mozilla by giving them market share. Additionally, I find that Brave just performs better (and needs one extension less to be functional).

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Brave also ticks all of them?

    at this point, Firefox's development is not very much more open than Chromium's

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It doesn't tick #3, hence why I use a Firefox browser as my main. If they had their own rendering engine, I would consider it as my main. But for now, it's my backup in case I need a website that doesn't work on Firefox (i.e. they use something Chrome-specific).

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