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[+] -18 points 1 year ago (16 children)

What does that have to do with the browser? Last I checked, browsers aren't transphobic.

You do you, but I personally refuse to make product choices based on the person who makes it. Brave is the least bad chromium browser, so I use it as a backup to my main Gecko-based browser. I'm not a fan of Mozilla either, but that's irrelevant since I pick my software based on what it does, not based on the management of the company that builds it.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Brave is the least bad chromium browser

    It's pretty sleazy. Ungoogled Chromium or Vivaldi are probably less sleazy, if at all.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I‘m not even pro Brave but all that ad stuff is opt-in so it doesn‘t matter as long as you don‘t want to see ads. The arguments in this thread are starting to just loop in circles. Essentially using Brave is fine if you stick to the default. There‘s no sleazy stuff if you don‘t enable it and the CEO also doesn‘t make a dime from you if that‘s something you‘re concerned about. You could of course use a different chromium browser if you want but it‘s virtually the same thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    The only two there that bother me are the affiliate code thing (reminds me of the Honey drama) and installing extra software without consent. The first was a bad call and probably related with how their ad replacement stuff works (if anything, they should merely axe affiliate links; Firefox has that as an option), and this"solution" to the latter is pretty odd to me:

    reinstall the browser without admin rights

    Why would a browser need admin rights in the first place? I haven't used Windows in well over a decade, so I don't think that particular one would be an issue for me.

    The rest can be grouped as:

    • bugs - bug fixes generally don't get prioritized until enough users complain; I would be very picky if I was an at risk person (activist or whatever) and would probably only use Tor browser
    • opt-in services
    • their marketing department

    My options for chromium browsers are:

    • something with ineffective ad blocking
    • Opera - I used it before it became a chromium browser, then it went downhill; not FOSS
    • Brave, with all its warts

    Since ad blocking and FOSS are my prerequisites, Brave basically wins by default.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Just block with unlock 🙉 why choose browser based on a ad block feature that is worse (injecting own ads/adware and therefore trying to dictate who is allowed to grab your attention) than the ad blocking extension?

    I recommend Firefox, due to best compatibility with uBlock (fuck manifest v3) and additionally have a DNS filter in your network, like pihole or adguard.

    On the go, use wireguard VPN to always be digitally home, and get your ads blocked (as well as tracking organisations) like that.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I would not choose to use a product made by people I disagree with but leaving that aside:

    Is it the least bad? Why not degoogled chrome? Or chromium? Even vivaldi seems like a better choice.

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  • Ad blocking mostly. That's literally all I need in a chromium browser, because I only use it on a handful of sites that don't work properly in Firefox.

    Chromium is also okay, but no ad blocker. I have that installed as well in the really unlikely case that the ad blocker gets in the way.

    99% of my browsing is on a Firefox browser, and 99% of the rest is on Brave. I use it so infrequently the "time saved" metric is a merely seconds.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Actually, I consider Brave the best (or the least bed...) browser on the market. Period. The fact that it isn't made by Mozilla is a plus for me.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I don't like Mozilla either, but here are my priorities in a web browser:

    1. FOSS
    2. Privacy tools - includes ad blocking; I'd actually be okay with ads if they didn't track me
    3. Promotes open web standards - rendering engine diversity is critical here, I don't want a repeat of the IE era
    4. Security
    5. Performance

    Firefox ticks all of them, and my issues with Mozilla as an org don't really come into play. I use a fork on my phone, but I use Firefox on my laptop and desktop because I trust the binaries coming from my Linux distribution maintainers (part of 4).

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Good for you. I actively refuse to use it or any of its derivatives to avoid endorsing Mozilla by giving them market share. Additionally, I find that Brave just performs better (and needs one extension less to be functional).

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Brave also ticks all of them?

    at this point, Firefox's development is not very much more open than Chromium's

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It doesn't tick #3, hence why I use a Firefox browser as my main. If they had their own rendering engine, I would consider it as my main. But for now, it's my backup in case I need a website that doesn't work on Firefox (i.e. they use something Chrome-specific).

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