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[–] 4 points 1 month ago (14 children)

I think that's different though bud…

Let's try a more blatant example for clarification, imagine you said the following about someone who murdered his wife:

"personally I don't blame him for killing his bitch of a wife, although I disagree"

the issue here is that you, like Sheeran, seem to think that staying neutral on genocide is being neutral even though you clearly know better than that… what you said armounts to "I would have done the same as Sheeran, if I were in his shoes"

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    You are putting a whole lot of words I did not say in my mouth. I said I understood why Sheeran was staying neutral, he's trying to play the whole " I'm an artist for all people" blah blah bullshit. And I said I disagreed with it. It's really common for musicians to do that, because they want ALL fans. One of the reasons I like Macklemore is that he doesn't do that and is willing to put his career on the line for it. The fact that just trying to say "I understand why someone did something even if I don't like it" still gets bombarded is pretty fucked up.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    You are putting a whole lot of words I did not say in my mouth

    Correct, and I warned in advance I was doing that to exemplify the point… I even warned I was being exaggerated about it

    It's really common for musicians to do that, because they want ALL fans.

    Again, the issue here is that not taking a side in a genocide is taking the side for genocide

    another example: no reasonable person would judge you if a bar fight start between two giants and you decide to not get involved… however, any reasonable person would judge you if you see a grown man beating a toddler and you don't even call 911

    The fact that just trying to say "I understand why someone did something even if I don't like it" still gets bombarded is pretty fucked up.

    Again, it's not a normal thing you are understanding from Sheeran here… in my example above, I don't think most people would be chill if I said "I disagree with beating the crap oot of toddlers, but I understand letting it happen and moving on"

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    He rightfully took side in Russian war of aggression of Ukraine. Stop with your bullshit excuses

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Only if you promise to stop with your bullshit whataboutisms.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    You claimed that Ed is acting neutral like artist normally do . I wrote about how he is taking sides. You call that whataboutism? Accusing other of whataboutism is hypocrites favorite technique

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  • [–] -4 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    You brought up Ukraine. And you don't think that's whataboutism. Ok buddy.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    You claimed that Ed do not take sides and I brought the example of Ukraine which prove that he do take sides . That is not whataboutism

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  • [–] -3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    So your argument is he has a different opinion about 2 different things and I'm an asshole for disagreeing with one of them.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    My argument is that Ed do take humanitarian sides while you claimed that he doesn't

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    About THIS SUBJECT. The one we are discussing in the post. Because he flat out said that was his reasoning. You keep moving the goal posts.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago

    Lol, like it's not all in writing in this thread. I think you misinterpreted what I said and cannot accept that and would rather go to this level of arguing than admit you were wrong about something. And I honestly hope you think about that and examine your response to all of this. Sheeran said something, I understand his reasoning and think he is wrong. It's not a weakness to understand someone's motives, you know.

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