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[–] [S] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Does this really just seem like an “opinion” to you? Just how technical do you want to get

I will read any paper you have read cover to cover and are willing to discuss in depth. Just quoting opinion isn't enough for a good faith discussion.

when we’re still trying to establish the baseline of “herbs and spices are bad for you”?

My exact opinion, which you can see upthread - Some people can tolerate some plants, but not all people can tolerate all plants. Herbs and spices play inside of most people's inflammation budget and are fine, but a unhealthy person may not be able to tolerate them.

Is this really more readable and better for a conversation than the abstract? It also doesn’t help that I don’t have access to the full article and don’t expect anyone else to pay for it either.

Did you read the paper in full, and are you willing to discuss it in detail? If not, quoting it doesn't change the level of asymmetric engagement your trying to tarpit the discussion with.

Great, so what body of research have you thoroughly read that lead you to believe all plants are toxic (or at least unhealthy) and you should cut them out of your diet as much as possible? That’s what I’ve been asking for from the beginning, but so far all you’ve given me was a very general WHO article about how toxins exist in plants and an hour long recorded zoom lecture trying to sell you medical tests.

https://discuss.online/post/44161218

https://discuss.online/post/25952420

https://discuss.online/post/25791954

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    https://discuss.online/post/44161218

    https://discuss.online/post/25952420

    https://discuss.online/post/25791954

    It becomes a asymmetric time waster for a good faith discussion. Someone reads your paper, responds to it, and you drop 5 more without engaging in the first paper in depth. I’m not saying you would do that, but it is the common pattern, which is why i have stopped reading people’s papers unless they are willing to engage in good faith discussions.

    Alright, so where do you want to start? Point me to one, instead of your personal library and board game collection.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    You asked what I based my current opinions on, so I gave you the literature, and then you imply i'm wasting your time by citing things I haven't read - that isn't very nice of you.

    If your going to read one book - Ketogenic - The science of therapeutic carbohydrate restriction in health. https://doi.org/10.1016/C2019-0-03604-7 Full Book is available on the normal book sharing websites. It doesn't say anything about herbs and spices, but it is far and away the most important and impactful book i own.

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    You asked what I based my current opinions on, so I gave you the literature, and then you imply i'm wasting your time by citing things I haven't read - that isn't very nice of you.

    You must be a Republican politician with that level of gaslighting and projection, that's literally what you've been doing to them the entire time, when they clearly read and were willing to discuss everything posted by both of you. That isn't very nice of you.

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