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[–] 190 points 2 months ago (97 children)

...I'm sorry, I think I need a translation for this.

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  • [–] 138 points 2 months ago (81 children)

    I looked up "yumeship" and just found more incomprehensible delusional niche culture bullshit

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  • [–] 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (79 children)

    https://everskies.com/club/yumeship/forums/rules/basic-yume-info-64736976

    The site above is accessible language-wise. They seem to be either fucking with OOP, or mentally ill, or 11.

    Edit: removed a thing, language drift is a helluva drug

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    the problem with those definitions is that most people don't even know what "shipping" is.

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  • [–] 73 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (67 children)

    "We." Always a red flag when someone admits to participating in lolcow shit; buncha chuds bullying autistic kids online.

    Edit: hey, all you chuds who are getting mad about this comment, you're not fooling anyone either, it's just other chuds telling you that you've done enough. "Edgy" isn't the same as bullying people to suicide because they're weird, that isn't normal teen behaviour, it comes from internalized values that you will still hold unless you actually address what you believe and why; just not bullying people online anymore isn't the same thing as learning to be better.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago* (34 children)

    I think you underestimate how long the term has been around, and I've hidden nothing. I accept the shitty person I was. Have you confronted your deficiencies as a human being?

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago* (23 children)

    I want to congratulate you for having a normal upbringing, then. I'm not going to offer anything identifying, because I'm not an idiot, but I grew up surrounded by corpses and continued to develop elsewhere in a state of nihilism and rage bred by a family, myself included, in the throes of constantly triggered ptsd. You do not understand enough to judge an internet stranger by their arbitrary admissions. Your scope of understanding is limited by the offense you've taken and your frame of reference.

    And It's not just "cringe." It's an extreme social trespass and transgression to, and follow me on this, tell someone to break up with their partner because of an llm's estimation of your desires. Whether satire or not, this person fits within the fringe groups. I'd otherwise call them an incel, but they seem particularly unhinged. Which pejorative do you prefer for a person who parasocially adheres to someone and decides upon their future? This is like defending pedophiles under the umbrella of lgbtq.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I'm glad you're a better person now.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Why aren't you upset that the VA put this person on blast by posting the screenshot instead of offering their personal support?

    Is it because this kind of behavior is incredibly fuckin creepy and shouldn't be coddled in any way?

    And why doesn't it come into play that this delusional weirdo is causing very real emotional distress to the VA?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It's kind of crazy how confident you are with your degree in Armchair Psychoanalysis.

    I take it you're part of the shipper community?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

    My first paragraph in reply was in reference to you patting yourself on the back for never having a cruel thought. I admit, I should have clarified rather than jumping into vitriol.

    Do you genuinely not understand why someone would search for exceedingly harmful words for a person trying something this creepy? I feel like I need to understand that before I can begin to understand anything else you've said.

    And I recognize my long road. My first comment was actively chiding me. This is like going to AA and going "I think these people are addicts."

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    I feel I need to begin by telling you that you do not understand what an incel is, if this behavior doesn't tick any boxes. Tertiary and quaternary sources offered you an incomplete picture, to the point that I don't know where to offer information. You will have to ask questions to fill in your blanks.

    Lolcow is a slur?? I didn't perceive it that way, which is where the misunderstanding began. I can absolutely see how you'd take what I wrote differently based upon that distinction, and I'll avoid using the term in that way in the future. I appreciate you clarifying that for me. To me, it was the same as shorthand describing them as maladaptive and easily baited, as that was the contemporaneous definition. I'm not going to excuse it, that was my mistake.

    I don't believe it would be productive to speak on anything in your last two paragraphs, as there are clearly misunderstandings, whether you recognize them or not.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I apologize if this comes off as rude, but you've clearly checked out of this conversation. I want to thank you once again for clarifying, what I did was objectively deeply shitty, but I understand completely that there is nothing of value to be gained for either one of us in continuing this conversation. If I transgress upon someone in the future, I'd appreciate you doing what you've done here today.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Some of what they said comes from candid misunderstandings and absence of information, but I did look it up. Lolcow is, indeed, utilized as a slur in current day. I definitely do not want to utilize a word that hits more strays than targets, which is where my appreciation lies.

    And I certainly wouldn't call them a faux leftist. Just someone who was deeply hurt by something and lashing out without regard for any attainable constructive end goal. That was decades of my life, so I see them and I can meet them where I need to be met. Regardless of their intent, I gleaned immensely useful information from them, and I highly value it. Their continued action meets my needs as a person far better than asking them to simmer down, and my comment above is my best attempt at having my needs met.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (8 children)

    Foreshadowing: they have not.

    Sounds to me you're now a better person than you were; be proud of that ^_^

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    I believe they took offense, leading them to act uncharacteristically. I firmly believe that they are a good person. Weighing someone unaccustomed to being in the middle of an argument, while they feel unsafe, certainly isn't fair to them.

    And make no mistake, 9999 times out of 10000, they'd be right to take some amount of offense. Their chosen verbiage just triggered a landmine.

    But thank you, it's kind of you to affirm that I'm not 200% dead puppies all the time!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    There's a stark difference between accountability and what you're doing, which is insisting that no one ever gets to improve their behaviour or learn from their mistakes. That doesn't make a better world, it makes the worst possible one.

    If people can only ever be as good as the worst thing they've done, then why should anyone ever aspire to be anything better than the worst possible version of themselves?

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (16 children)

    The human brain doesn't fully develop until the mid twenties, and empathy is one of the last things that fully develops. So the nihilistic online edge lord culture is one you can genuinely age out of.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    … empathy is one of the last things that fully develops.

    That’s not true at all. If you didn’t develop empathy in preschool and have fully developed sense of empathy by middle to high school, you had some serious developmental issues or were raised in a bad environment.

    That doesn’t mean middle and high school kids can’t be mean. That cruelty can’t be excused by undeveloped empathy. In fact, they most certainly know how the person feels and are intentionally making them feel bad.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    And I’m saying it fully develops before adulthood. Usually, somewhere around 12 years old.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Its obvious when you guys are making excuses for yourselves and passing it off as some act of empathy or understanding. That's also just false, btw, and I never wanted to hurt vulnerable people even when I was young.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    this dickbag went on to say that cringeshippers are the same as incels

    I said this cringeshipper behaves like an incel. And I continued by telling you that you do not understand what an incel is in the same way that I did not understand the harm in my words.

    and that the problem with “lolcow” is that it’s a mean word, not that it’s fucking bigoted with a violent history.

    Not what I said in the least.

    Also a lot of gaslighty “I’ll take the higher ground,” bullshit without even acknowledging how fucking fascist that is.

    I was preventing people from flaming you by contextualizing your feelings in a way that would allow them to exit the conversation. Which I do not regret, considering the horrendous trash I just read from you.

    Your deradicalization attempts seem actively antithetical to your goal, considering I've now seen you attempting to start flame wars with like 6 separate people who did not grow up in the state of privilege necessary to sustain your Abelardian moral complex.

    I acknowledged my shittyness and you responded with smugness and wandered off. I saw you tell some guy that he is the sum of all of his moral failures- that they have no hope of redemption because they were a cruel teenager. What the fuck is wrong with you? That's some incredibly harsh, unabashedly destructive and dishonest conversation that most people would not tolerate, let alone improve from.

    You speak like a human being untouched by light and I say this with the utmost concern for you and the people you're speaking to, you need to touch grass and talk to actual people before you can even consider deradicalizing anyone. My fucking word.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Dude would you shut the fuck up about privilege? I know for an absolute fact that not being privileged doesn’t make you any more likely to be cruel or any less able to fucking learn the actual morality behind your actions.

    You genuinely know and understand none of what I was communicating if this is your takeaway. You lack any degree of necessary context about the world to speak on the topics you pretend to understand.

    I did not fucking say anything close to that. I’ve told people like you, fuckin men, that they actually have to work at addressing why they did something bad and actually change their values, not just fucking say that it was bad and they don’t do bad things now and think that’s the end of it. That so many of you have read this as “there’s no hope for change,” is exactly my fucking point, and it isn’t for you dickheads it’s for the dozens of other people I’ve seen come across this thread. You have any idea how much harm men like you cause? Shut the fuck up about having a hard life and how sorry you are just fucking do the values if you’ve addressed them so effectively.

    Not a man, by the way. I never cared to correct your assumption because it wasn't relevant and you seemed to be having fun saying it. Morality is based in, and relies on having role models capable of offering this information. You conflate improvement with perfection. You literally know nothing about social development and your ability to grasp that is nonexistent. Do. better.

    You didn’t today, and you don’t get to decide when other people should be fine with your behaviour, which is another reason you have to take accountability for it, not just guilt. I’m also correctly picking out these abuser flags, whether you like it or not. You said some bigoted shit and then followed that up by openly admitting that you don’t think incels are really all that bad, only just as bad as this weirdy this post is about; its a fucking genocidal cult that has successfully propagated a distinct form of scotastic terrorism and is responsible for hundreds of mass murders.

    I never said that what I did was okay, and I'm not interested in your acceptance, I'm interested in that of the disadvantaged people I work and live with. You make assumptions like an old republican watching an immigrant laboring in public. And once again, you don't understand what an incel is. You're describing someone who partakes of incel culture. There are no good people in incel culture. You can do nothing but conflate and misunderstand because your cursory understanding is worthless, which is why I tried to have you ask questions instead of shouting at me like an idiot about a topic you know too little about.

    Shut the absolute fuck up dude, you are a piece of shit, not for the shit from your past, but because of your refusal to address the way you understand things today. I’d you really got it, you’d have made it clear above that you seriously devalued women and disabled people today, but you didn’t, did you? No, you just tried to act like you were a more level headed and moral person already.

    I covered this already, but you conflate improvement with perfection. Which is something that you need to work on.

    Your adrenaline ran incredibly high and you physically cannot comprehend what I have been saying to you if half of this is your takeaway. Between that and the open, festering trauma wounds, there is tremendous work to be done because this early 20s speaking at people in a stress fueled stroke risk state isn't serving you. Were I actually interested in harming you or anyone else, I would simply continue speaking to you to induce your premature death via brain bleed. You are actively killing yourself, you beautiful idiot. Don't give me or anyone else that.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    I don't think kiwifarms even existed when I was using the term.

    Launched February 4, 2013; 13 years ago

    Yeah, my use of the term predated it by a decade. 0 doxing, for the record.

    And no, I wasn't aware. I'm pretty apparently using a term antiquatedly

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  • [–] 48 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    I'm guessing they have a character AI "girlfriend" modeled after her, and she having a real life broke his illusion

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  • [–] 31 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Jfc. Schools need empathy courses.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The problem with defending bullying these people is that bullies simply don't care what's justified. You need to fix culture. People don't get the social purpose of shame, TLDR social accountability.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    People don't end up developing parasocial relationships with people online like this cause they got too much love from their parents and have too many friends. Bullying would reinforce the behavior because they will seek ways to cope.

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  • [–] 75 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Weirdo likes to imagine that they have a relationship with the person who originally posted the screenshot with the messages. They're asking the real person to engage in their fantasy by breaking up with another (probably) real person because weirdo's chatbot of them said they would.

    F/O in this case is fictional other, a play on S/O for significant other. Yumeship is a dumb word for jerking/schlicking fantasy stuff.

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