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[–] -1 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Attacks on civilians infrastructure? That sounds very illegal and may have Zelenskyy sent to The Hague.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    may have Zelenskyy sent to The Hague.

    He's white, though.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    So is Netanyahu, and he has a warrant out. If Zelenskyy starts striking civilian planes with international travelers onboard he’s going to lose support as far as Western public opinion goes and the ICC won’t be far behind.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago

    Kiev was already under scrutiny from western media pre-2022 for their war crimes in the Donbass region. Once the war escalated with Russia entering the war, the same media apparatus flipped 180. I doubt Ukraine attacking civilian planes will lose them support among the west.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    a warrant that's not neither being enforced by any of the countries that promised to support the icc/icj nor pursued since the us empire had the icj prosecutor relieved of duty.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Perhaps you could read the article instead of inferring what was said from a clickbait title.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago*

    “Ukraine does not threaten civilian aviation as such – not a single civilian aircraft. There will simply be drones in Russia’s skies on a scale that has to be taken into account”

    “We in Ukraine do not want innocent lives to be lost. That is why we are warning our partners: the safe days in Russia’s skies are over.

    totally not going to kill civilians, sure.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    “Today, we want to warn every airline that uses Russian airspace, every insurer, and everyone who still uses Russia’s key airports: Russian airspace is becoming completely unsafe,” Zelensky said in a post on X that cited his nightly address.

    Yes, because these are the words of a leader who definitely intends to do no harm.

    Seems like Trump is definitely rubbing off on this guy.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    To steal the post of someone hire up this post that shared the entirety of the quote...

    "Today, we want to warn every airline that uses Russian airspace, every insurer, and everyone who still uses Russia’s key airports: Russian airspace is becoming completely unsafe."

    "Ukraine does not threaten civilian aviation as such – not a single civilian aircraft. There will simply be drones in Russia’s skies on a scale that has to be taken into account"

    "We in Ukraine do not want innocent lives to be lost. That is why we are warning our partners: the safe days in Russia’s skies are over. It is important that this is heard by the ambassadors of countries represented here in Ukraine, as well as by ambassadors working in Moscow."

    You cherry picked one line without context. His statement is a warning that non military flights will be flying through an active war zone, so proceed with caution. It's not a threat that he plans to attack civilian targets. He definitely intends to do harm, to Russian military and infrastructure, but if civilians put themselves in harms way, they may end up as an accidental casualty. That's different than some like Putin who specifically targets civilians.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    And you’re assuming I didn’t read the rest of it.

    He didn’t need to state that first paragraph. Period.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I didn't say you didn't read it, but I did say that you were disingenuous for cherry picking part of the quote leaving out the rest of the context. The first paragraph is a fair warning to anyone flying in airspace that is going to get more dangerous. That's not him saying he's targeting civilians or that he intends to.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    But the final paragraph is him saying that they don't care if or when they take out a civilian aircraft because they did a warning.

    It's the same as when cops shoot someone while giving themselves plausible deniability

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  • [+] -19 points 2 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You guys are so arrogant and have your heads so far up your own asses you cant even conceive of someone disagreeing with you unless they are misinformed or a disingenuous paid troll. You guys wont see reality until it smacks you square in the face.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    Not even then. They'll twist themselves into knots to find a version of reality that paints this inhumanity as something nobody could have known about at the time (and an unreasonable assumption anyway!) or they'll just deny it forever.

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