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A miser is someone who is infatuated with the past, and is grumpy about the present, so when did it come to mean someone who is a cheapskate and stingy over money? (lemmy.today)
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A miser is someone who is infatuated with the past, and is grumpy about the present, (compared to depressive, or someone who is infatuated with the future, and depressed about the present), so when did it come to mean someone who is a cheapskate and stingy over money?

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[+] [S] -15 points 2 months ago (30 children)

just because there is no equivalent word for miser in the Chinese language, as someone who infatuates over the past and grumpy about the present, doesn't mean the word does not exist in the English language.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (20 children)

    chinese? wtf are you talking about?

    I literally asked where your definition of miser is coming from. its not a definition ive heard before. how does china relate to that?!

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  • [+] [S] -13 points 2 months ago* (19 children)

    it feels like the English language has become simpler in vocabulary, like Chinese language, since 2017

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (18 children)

    oh. youre just baiting. sorry for engaging with sincerity

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  • [+] [S] -13 points 2 months ago (17 children)

    what makes you think I'm baiting? I recommend you learning German or Japanese languages, or even Modern Hebrew (compared to Hebrew from the Roman era), rather than Chinese language.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    It seems like you're baiting because we have never heard this definition before:

    A miser is someone who is infatuated with the past, and is grumpy about the present

    Did you get it from an AI chatbot?

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  • [+] [S] -7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    "Miser is a grumpy person who lives in the past, instead of the present", was the definition people used in the US before 2016.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    I dont want to get into a massive comment chain about basically nothing.

    1. You asked about the definition of miser, and provided an “original” or alternative definition
    2. I replied with a definition, and asked where you heard your definition.
    3. youve gone entirely off the rails talking about china and other countries.

    Engage with the discussion?

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  • [+] [S] -10 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    what's your question?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    where did you get the definition of “miser” from? because its wrong.

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  • [+] [S] -9 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    “Miser is a grumpy person who lives in the past, instead of the present”, was the definition people used in the US before 2016.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    I literally cited a dictionary. Ill assume youre being obtuse on purpose at this point, engaging in bad faith.

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  • [+] [S] -9 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    cite a dictionary from before 2016, instead, that's not online

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    ok good bye.

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  • [+] [S] -7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    the definition for miser somehow, and some when, changed from "grumpy person who lives in the past", to "someone stingy over money and is cheapskate".

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Yes. But where did you see this? what gave you that definition?

    Some vague memory is not valid.

    youve had your question answered. why are you arguing?

    The basis of your premise is factually wrong.

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  • [+] [S] -8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    just because 'the definition for miser somehow, and some when, changed from “grumpy person who lives in the past”, to “someone stingy over money and is cheapskate”' is not mentioned elsewhere, does not make it false.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    In English this would describe a traditionalist, or even just a conservative. Also, maybe a nostalgist...but that one is very rarely used.

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  • [+] [S] -14 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    “Miser is a grumpy person who lives in the past, instead of the present”, was the definition people used in the US before 2016.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah, no. Charles Dickens used the word to describe his character Ebenezer Scrooge as a greedy old penny-pincher, in A Christmas Carol. That book was written in the 1800's, and it was a commonly used word even then.

    The definition you're using, simply doesn't apply. That's not what that word has ever meant.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Upon what evidence do you make this assertion? It's always meant your "current" definition across my several decades of life.

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