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Report: North Korea Is Now Beating America in Healthcare, Education, Housing, and Transportation (hrnews1.substack.com)
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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    From the same country that says it has a cure for cancer and aids, and that unicorns actually existed at some point.

    Citation needed.

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    Yeah that's not a citation. Please post a link to any official DPRK source to back up your claims of what they say.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    You do realize that you're nakedly repeating myths with no self-awareness, right? For example, the DPRK doesn't actually believe unicorns existed, just like western countries don't actually believe dragons existed, despite using the iconography as cultural symbols. Whatever you believe is common sense is in reality whatever the ruling class finds it best for you to believe.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    You do realize this article proves exactly what I said, correct? Korean history is incredibly ancient, and as such part of it has heavy elements of folklore. This does not mean Koreans actually believe in unicorns, but that the iconography is symbolic, and as such it has historic ties. Have you ever spoken to a Korean, southern Koreans included? This isn't exclusive to the north, the South also has mythologized elements (they have a common history), they aren't treated as actual history and instead as folklore. The west reports on this as though northerners believe the folklore, which is wrong.

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    No, it does not. The historic link to the mythologized aspects of Korean history does suggest links to material history. The mythologized elements are cultural and not seen as historically accurate, but the locational links are to real, historic leadership. There was no unicorn, but there were generations of kings that did exist. This is not "divine right," it's a tie to history.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You're literally parroting propaganda without a shred of self-awareness lol. Do you ever bother to fact check anything about the designated enemies of western capitalism?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    The US believes they can get Vietnam to flip in a color revolution, they understand that's not an option for the DPRK, just like with Cuba. Even then, you can find plenty of slop online about how the government of Vietnam is secretly evil and so communist and so you should hate them. As for the development of the DPRK, you can't just destroy a country's infrastructure, genocide about 20% of their population and then sanction the hell out of them for decades and expect them to be doing awesome just because their government is socialist. Even then, it's not hell. But I agree you should honor testimonies, especially when the person speaking has no financial or legal incentive to lie one way or the other, so surely you'll want to watch this.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago

    Like a North Korean dinner, there’s fuck all meat here. It’s just parroting a bunch of claims.

    It’s just parroting a bunch of claims.

    Seems like the only parrot here is you.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Meanwhile, America has a “cure” for cancer every other month

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    a lost redditor appears, it is very confused

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    EVERYTHING IS PROPAGANDA YOU FUCKING IDIOT

    JUST BECAUSE ONE VIEW ALIGNS WITH YOURS DOES NOT MAKE THAT NOT PROPAGANDA

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    Based on the articles I've seen from HR News linked on Lemmy I'm pretty sure it's AI generated, although they do it somewhat more competently than other more blatantly generated news content. The links backing up its arguments at least have a vague connection to the claim in the article, but it's still pretty questionable, for instance they say "free education" and then link to this page which gives a single data point from 2008 that says NK has a "100%" literacy rate, information credited to "World Bank". There's a claim that the country has universal free healthcare, and then in the next sentence links a wikipedia article that contradicts that claim in the second paragraph. You don't even need to say these claims are definitively false to realize this is lazy journalism at best.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    And everything claimed by America is done to further their goals of global domination. Why would you watch every American news channel lie out their ass for the past 3 years about their ally committing a genocide, and then go on to happily believe everything they say about NK?

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  • [+] -9 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    Not sure what the fuck I just stumbled into but holy shit the comments here are wild. This is some twilight zone shit assuming everyone here are real people.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    This is Lemmy.ML, as in Marx-Leninism. It is filled with entirely delusional people. I'd give you examples of what they believe, but I can't think of anything more ridiculous than believing that North Korea is some sort of paradise. It's best just to point, laugh, and move on.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago*

    This is Lemmy.ML as in Marx-Leninism

    It's actually .ml as in Mali, but okay.

    I'd give you examples of what they believe,

    You actually don't know because everything you know about Marxism-Leninism (and communism as a whole) you learnt from Western media.

    It's best just to point, laugh, and move on.

    i-love-not-thinking

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Nobody says the DPRK is a paradise. The DPRK is a resiliant socialist country that has managed to achieve incredible results given that they were subject to mass devastation and genocide, and incredible sanctions. That doesn't mean it's heaven on Earth either, but because it's incredibly hard to deny that the DPRK has done a lot with very little it's common for opponents to pretend communists believe a hyperbole.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago*

    "Everyone who disagrees with the extremely propagandized bubble of liberalism I've been raised in is mentally defective, ignore how many times they've been proven right."

    When you have to pretend that nobody could actually disagree with you without being insane or paid, you have the most fragile ideology in history.

    Believing North Korea is some sort of paradise

    See? If you didn't have straw men you'd have no men at all. I can do it too. You think America is a paradise, how insane is that? Get help for your delusions, dude.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Some people guzzle western propaganda about NK, like every male has to have the same haircut as Kim, or that they constantly execute people with aircraft cannons, and then somehow come to find that the supposed executed people are alive and well!

    Time to wake up and learn that American propaganda has been the most successful propaganda in human history.

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