▲ 514 ▼ New sodium-ion battery skips mechanical cooling with 97.9% efficiency (interestingengineering.com) submitted 3 months ago by Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 91 comments fedilink hide all child comments I've been hearing about these for a few years now. Huge if they work out at a large scale.
[–] raman_klogius@ani.social 120 points 3 months ago (19 children) Is this the next big thing? Na. /j permalink fedilink source hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 71 points 3 months ago (5 children) Maybe they will make a potassium battery, K? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 months ago (3 children) Maybe, but I want to see Uranium batteries go mainstream, how 'bout U? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RaccoonBall@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) Id prefer francium batteries, fr permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KeithD@lemmy.nz 6 points 3 months ago Or gallium hydride? GaH. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 months ago https://youtu.be/LW9hwoaJXgw? permalink fedilink source parent [–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 point 3 months ago I was hoping science would've gotten us to a tri lanthanside by now https://youtu.be/D8fHatctfRo permalink fedilink source parent [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 months ago* (9 children) Sodium-Ion is already in production at CATL. Been for about half a year if I recall. It's slightly less dense than LFP but it's cheaper and promises to get cheaper yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 36 points 3 months ago (1 child) You're right, they were making a pun about sodium's chemical symbol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rhythmisaprancer 21 points 3 months ago Not who you replied to, but thanks for explaining! I saw the /j but still didn't get it. I wasn't a good chemistry student... permalink fedilink source parent [–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago (1 child) The advantage of Sodium -Ion is that it's cheap, abundant, safe, and can cycle. It's mainly used where large capacities are needed. So industrial, grid scale, stationary types of storage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Sodium carbonate is less common than lithium carbonate, but requires less processing permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago And loads of charge cycles IIRC. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 months ago (3 children) It's significantly less dense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KeithD@lemmy.nz 3 points 3 months ago (2 children) It's close enough to already be in use in some chinese cars. But definitely better for stationary use cases where density matters less. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago It is considerably less dense. Those Chinese cars have only 20 kWh batteries permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 months ago One Chinese car. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) Na. Sodium, not natrium. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 16 points 3 months ago I have a surprise for you... permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago Sodium is just what those weirdos call Naatrium. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 71 points 3 months ago (5 children) Maybe they will make a potassium battery, K? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 months ago (3 children) Maybe, but I want to see Uranium batteries go mainstream, how 'bout U? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RaccoonBall@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) Id prefer francium batteries, fr permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KeithD@lemmy.nz 6 points 3 months ago Or gallium hydride? GaH. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 months ago https://youtu.be/LW9hwoaJXgw? permalink fedilink source parent [–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 point 3 months ago I was hoping science would've gotten us to a tri lanthanside by now https://youtu.be/D8fHatctfRo permalink fedilink source parent
[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 months ago (3 children) Maybe, but I want to see Uranium batteries go mainstream, how 'bout U? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] RaccoonBall@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) Id prefer francium batteries, fr permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KeithD@lemmy.nz 6 points 3 months ago Or gallium hydride? GaH. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 months ago https://youtu.be/LW9hwoaJXgw? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaccoonBall@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago (1 child) Id prefer francium batteries, fr permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] KeithD@lemmy.nz 6 points 3 months ago Or gallium hydride? GaH. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 3 months ago https://youtu.be/LW9hwoaJXgw? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 point 3 months ago I was hoping science would've gotten us to a tri lanthanside by now https://youtu.be/D8fHatctfRo permalink fedilink source parent
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 months ago* (9 children) Sodium-Ion is already in production at CATL. Been for about half a year if I recall. It's slightly less dense than LFP but it's cheaper and promises to get cheaper yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 36 points 3 months ago (1 child) You're right, they were making a pun about sodium's chemical symbol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rhythmisaprancer 21 points 3 months ago Not who you replied to, but thanks for explaining! I saw the /j but still didn't get it. I wasn't a good chemistry student... permalink fedilink source parent [–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago (1 child) The advantage of Sodium -Ion is that it's cheap, abundant, safe, and can cycle. It's mainly used where large capacities are needed. So industrial, grid scale, stationary types of storage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Sodium carbonate is less common than lithium carbonate, but requires less processing permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago And loads of charge cycles IIRC. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 months ago (3 children) It's significantly less dense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KeithD@lemmy.nz 3 points 3 months ago (2 children) It's close enough to already be in use in some chinese cars. But definitely better for stationary use cases where density matters less. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago It is considerably less dense. Those Chinese cars have only 20 kWh batteries permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 months ago One Chinese car. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 36 points 3 months ago (1 child) You're right, they were making a pun about sodium's chemical symbol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rhythmisaprancer 21 points 3 months ago Not who you replied to, but thanks for explaining! I saw the /j but still didn't get it. I wasn't a good chemistry student... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rhythmisaprancer 21 points 3 months ago Not who you replied to, but thanks for explaining! I saw the /j but still didn't get it. I wasn't a good chemistry student... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago (1 child) The advantage of Sodium -Ion is that it's cheap, abundant, safe, and can cycle. It's mainly used where large capacities are needed. So industrial, grid scale, stationary types of storage. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Sodium carbonate is less common than lithium carbonate, but requires less processing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Sodium carbonate is less common than lithium carbonate, but requires less processing permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago And loads of charge cycles IIRC. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 months ago (3 children) It's significantly less dense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] KeithD@lemmy.nz 3 points 3 months ago (2 children) It's close enough to already be in use in some chinese cars. But definitely better for stationary use cases where density matters less. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago It is considerably less dense. Those Chinese cars have only 20 kWh batteries permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 months ago One Chinese car. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KeithD@lemmy.nz 3 points 3 months ago (2 children) It's close enough to already be in use in some chinese cars. But definitely better for stationary use cases where density matters less. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago It is considerably less dense. Those Chinese cars have only 20 kWh batteries permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 months ago One Chinese car. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago It is considerably less dense. Those Chinese cars have only 20 kWh batteries permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago (2 children) Na. Sodium, not natrium. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tja@programming.dev 16 points 3 months ago I have a surprise for you... permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago Sodium is just what those weirdos call Naatrium. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tja@programming.dev 16 points 3 months ago I have a surprise for you... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago Sodium is just what those weirdos call Naatrium. permalink fedilink source parent