▲ 603 ▼ Cattle branding for an interview (lemy.lol) submitted 3 months ago by Krauerking@lemy.lol to c/linkedinlunatics@sh.itjust.works 89 comments fedilink hide all child comments And so you understand that this is 100% legit... Here is their apology after they branded their potential slaves.
[–] JakenVeina@midwest.social 115 points 3 months ago (18 children) Well, the apology is more than I would've expected. permalink fedilink source hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 86 points 3 months ago (17 children) Yes, whatever PR person wrote that did a good job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago (16 children) It's an AI slop company so... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (15 children) AI can generate text, but it can't identify the moral issue with forcing people to get tattoos, so... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (14 children) So... The prompt they used was more specific than "Write an apology?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (13 children) The apology identified the problem (AI can't do that) and came up with an appropriate remedy (AI can't do that). It may be that the final version of the text was written by an AI, but it seems likely that a PR firm or crisis communications firm was used to defuse the situation. Those companies are used not just because they can generate text, but because they're able to identify the problem, come up with a solution, and do it in a way that ends the news cycle. Those are skills that require empathy and understanding human nature, which is something AI doesn't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 10 points 3 months ago (6 children) Dude you're so full of shit, it even identifies the fact it's a party and people were drunk and can't consent permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (5 children) By saying "What's the moral issue here?" You indicated there was a moral issue to find. I would bet that if you used that prompt for something where there were absolutely no moral issues, it would invent one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 2 points 3 months ago (4 children) But it didn’t invent an issue. It found the one talked about and several others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (3 children) Sure, and that's pretty good. But, it's not the same as identifying that there is an issue on its own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) It’s not like the people in the company saw the issue themselves, until they were told that there were an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) The psychopathic guy who posted that LinkedIn post didn't see the issue. I doubt he passed the idea past the company's lawyers or PR team though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago So, the human needs to be an psychopath to not spot it and the people checking needs to have the job of spotting dumb ideas, to be able to see the issue. I tried running the idea past Ecosia’s AI (thinking mode) and it spots the issues right away plus other ones, including reputation harm to the company. Here is my prompt: a company is having a party for young people where non-employees can come too. At the party, there will be a tattoo artist where everyone can get a tattoo that they choose themselves. if people get a tattoo, they will get offered a job interview. what do you think about that idea? I’m not saying that AI can do anything a human can, but your claim that an AI can’t spot the issue without being told that one exist, is false. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago I checked and it seems like the main difference with an AI suggested apology is the addition of gaslighting: We did NOT offer instant interviews based on tattoos. That was never our intent. We brought a tattoo artist to our party as a fun, optional activity — like face painting or photo booths — to help break the ice. No one was pressured. No one was evaluated. And no one was hired because of a tattoo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago AI can if you go "and make sure to mention [INSERT PROBLEM HERE]" in the prompt. And that entire apology is most definitely AI slop written, it has every telltale sign, such as using weird grammar choices, and looking sycophantic permalink fedilink source parent [–] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago (2 children) Perhaps you haven’t been using LLMs recently - they absolutely do that now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] merc@sh.itjust.works -7 points 3 months ago (1 child) So, you describe a situation in neutral terms and it is able to decide what's ethical or unethical in that situation? Something that even humans are unable to do consistently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Or maybe they just used the feedback they got to craft the prompt. Or just fed the feedback directly into the llm and told it to craft an apology based on that. Regardless, I don't really care how they arrived at the soulless apology so I'm going to move on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 86 points 3 months ago (17 children) Yes, whatever PR person wrote that did a good job. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago (16 children) It's an AI slop company so... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (15 children) AI can generate text, but it can't identify the moral issue with forcing people to get tattoos, so... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (14 children) So... The prompt they used was more specific than "Write an apology?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (13 children) The apology identified the problem (AI can't do that) and came up with an appropriate remedy (AI can't do that). It may be that the final version of the text was written by an AI, but it seems likely that a PR firm or crisis communications firm was used to defuse the situation. Those companies are used not just because they can generate text, but because they're able to identify the problem, come up with a solution, and do it in a way that ends the news cycle. Those are skills that require empathy and understanding human nature, which is something AI doesn't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 10 points 3 months ago (6 children) Dude you're so full of shit, it even identifies the fact it's a party and people were drunk and can't consent permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (5 children) By saying "What's the moral issue here?" You indicated there was a moral issue to find. I would bet that if you used that prompt for something where there were absolutely no moral issues, it would invent one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 2 points 3 months ago (4 children) But it didn’t invent an issue. It found the one talked about and several others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (3 children) Sure, and that's pretty good. But, it's not the same as identifying that there is an issue on its own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) It’s not like the people in the company saw the issue themselves, until they were told that there were an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) The psychopathic guy who posted that LinkedIn post didn't see the issue. I doubt he passed the idea past the company's lawyers or PR team though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago So, the human needs to be an psychopath to not spot it and the people checking needs to have the job of spotting dumb ideas, to be able to see the issue. I tried running the idea past Ecosia’s AI (thinking mode) and it spots the issues right away plus other ones, including reputation harm to the company. Here is my prompt: a company is having a party for young people where non-employees can come too. At the party, there will be a tattoo artist where everyone can get a tattoo that they choose themselves. if people get a tattoo, they will get offered a job interview. what do you think about that idea? I’m not saying that AI can do anything a human can, but your claim that an AI can’t spot the issue without being told that one exist, is false. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago I checked and it seems like the main difference with an AI suggested apology is the addition of gaslighting: We did NOT offer instant interviews based on tattoos. That was never our intent. We brought a tattoo artist to our party as a fun, optional activity — like face painting or photo booths — to help break the ice. No one was pressured. No one was evaluated. And no one was hired because of a tattoo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago AI can if you go "and make sure to mention [INSERT PROBLEM HERE]" in the prompt. And that entire apology is most definitely AI slop written, it has every telltale sign, such as using weird grammar choices, and looking sycophantic permalink fedilink source parent [–] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago (2 children) Perhaps you haven’t been using LLMs recently - they absolutely do that now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] merc@sh.itjust.works -7 points 3 months ago (1 child) So, you describe a situation in neutral terms and it is able to decide what's ethical or unethical in that situation? Something that even humans are unable to do consistently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Or maybe they just used the feedback they got to craft the prompt. Or just fed the feedback directly into the llm and told it to craft an apology based on that. Regardless, I don't really care how they arrived at the soulless apology so I'm going to move on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago (16 children) It's an AI slop company so... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (15 children) AI can generate text, but it can't identify the moral issue with forcing people to get tattoos, so... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (14 children) So... The prompt they used was more specific than "Write an apology?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (13 children) The apology identified the problem (AI can't do that) and came up with an appropriate remedy (AI can't do that). It may be that the final version of the text was written by an AI, but it seems likely that a PR firm or crisis communications firm was used to defuse the situation. Those companies are used not just because they can generate text, but because they're able to identify the problem, come up with a solution, and do it in a way that ends the news cycle. Those are skills that require empathy and understanding human nature, which is something AI doesn't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 10 points 3 months ago (6 children) Dude you're so full of shit, it even identifies the fact it's a party and people were drunk and can't consent permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (5 children) By saying "What's the moral issue here?" You indicated there was a moral issue to find. I would bet that if you used that prompt for something where there were absolutely no moral issues, it would invent one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 2 points 3 months ago (4 children) But it didn’t invent an issue. It found the one talked about and several others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (3 children) Sure, and that's pretty good. But, it's not the same as identifying that there is an issue on its own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) It’s not like the people in the company saw the issue themselves, until they were told that there were an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) The psychopathic guy who posted that LinkedIn post didn't see the issue. I doubt he passed the idea past the company's lawyers or PR team though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago So, the human needs to be an psychopath to not spot it and the people checking needs to have the job of spotting dumb ideas, to be able to see the issue. I tried running the idea past Ecosia’s AI (thinking mode) and it spots the issues right away plus other ones, including reputation harm to the company. Here is my prompt: a company is having a party for young people where non-employees can come too. At the party, there will be a tattoo artist where everyone can get a tattoo that they choose themselves. if people get a tattoo, they will get offered a job interview. what do you think about that idea? I’m not saying that AI can do anything a human can, but your claim that an AI can’t spot the issue without being told that one exist, is false. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago I checked and it seems like the main difference with an AI suggested apology is the addition of gaslighting: We did NOT offer instant interviews based on tattoos. That was never our intent. We brought a tattoo artist to our party as a fun, optional activity — like face painting or photo booths — to help break the ice. No one was pressured. No one was evaluated. And no one was hired because of a tattoo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago AI can if you go "and make sure to mention [INSERT PROBLEM HERE]" in the prompt. And that entire apology is most definitely AI slop written, it has every telltale sign, such as using weird grammar choices, and looking sycophantic permalink fedilink source parent [–] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago (2 children) Perhaps you haven’t been using LLMs recently - they absolutely do that now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] merc@sh.itjust.works -7 points 3 months ago (1 child) So, you describe a situation in neutral terms and it is able to decide what's ethical or unethical in that situation? Something that even humans are unable to do consistently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Or maybe they just used the feedback they got to craft the prompt. Or just fed the feedback directly into the llm and told it to craft an apology based on that. Regardless, I don't really care how they arrived at the soulless apology so I'm going to move on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (15 children) AI can generate text, but it can't identify the moral issue with forcing people to get tattoos, so... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (14 children) So... The prompt they used was more specific than "Write an apology?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (13 children) The apology identified the problem (AI can't do that) and came up with an appropriate remedy (AI can't do that). It may be that the final version of the text was written by an AI, but it seems likely that a PR firm or crisis communications firm was used to defuse the situation. Those companies are used not just because they can generate text, but because they're able to identify the problem, come up with a solution, and do it in a way that ends the news cycle. Those are skills that require empathy and understanding human nature, which is something AI doesn't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 10 points 3 months ago (6 children) Dude you're so full of shit, it even identifies the fact it's a party and people were drunk and can't consent permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (5 children) By saying "What's the moral issue here?" You indicated there was a moral issue to find. I would bet that if you used that prompt for something where there were absolutely no moral issues, it would invent one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 2 points 3 months ago (4 children) But it didn’t invent an issue. It found the one talked about and several others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (3 children) Sure, and that's pretty good. But, it's not the same as identifying that there is an issue on its own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) It’s not like the people in the company saw the issue themselves, until they were told that there were an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) The psychopathic guy who posted that LinkedIn post didn't see the issue. I doubt he passed the idea past the company's lawyers or PR team though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago So, the human needs to be an psychopath to not spot it and the people checking needs to have the job of spotting dumb ideas, to be able to see the issue. I tried running the idea past Ecosia’s AI (thinking mode) and it spots the issues right away plus other ones, including reputation harm to the company. Here is my prompt: a company is having a party for young people where non-employees can come too. At the party, there will be a tattoo artist where everyone can get a tattoo that they choose themselves. if people get a tattoo, they will get offered a job interview. what do you think about that idea? I’m not saying that AI can do anything a human can, but your claim that an AI can’t spot the issue without being told that one exist, is false. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago I checked and it seems like the main difference with an AI suggested apology is the addition of gaslighting: We did NOT offer instant interviews based on tattoos. That was never our intent. We brought a tattoo artist to our party as a fun, optional activity — like face painting or photo booths — to help break the ice. No one was pressured. No one was evaluated. And no one was hired because of a tattoo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago AI can if you go "and make sure to mention [INSERT PROBLEM HERE]" in the prompt. And that entire apology is most definitely AI slop written, it has every telltale sign, such as using weird grammar choices, and looking sycophantic permalink fedilink source parent [–] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago (2 children) Perhaps you haven’t been using LLMs recently - they absolutely do that now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] merc@sh.itjust.works -7 points 3 months ago (1 child) So, you describe a situation in neutral terms and it is able to decide what's ethical or unethical in that situation? Something that even humans are unable to do consistently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Or maybe they just used the feedback they got to craft the prompt. Or just fed the feedback directly into the llm and told it to craft an apology based on that. Regardless, I don't really care how they arrived at the soulless apology so I'm going to move on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (14 children) So... The prompt they used was more specific than "Write an apology?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (13 children) The apology identified the problem (AI can't do that) and came up with an appropriate remedy (AI can't do that). It may be that the final version of the text was written by an AI, but it seems likely that a PR firm or crisis communications firm was used to defuse the situation. Those companies are used not just because they can generate text, but because they're able to identify the problem, come up with a solution, and do it in a way that ends the news cycle. Those are skills that require empathy and understanding human nature, which is something AI doesn't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 10 points 3 months ago (6 children) Dude you're so full of shit, it even identifies the fact it's a party and people were drunk and can't consent permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (5 children) By saying "What's the moral issue here?" You indicated there was a moral issue to find. I would bet that if you used that prompt for something where there were absolutely no moral issues, it would invent one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 2 points 3 months ago (4 children) But it didn’t invent an issue. It found the one talked about and several others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (3 children) Sure, and that's pretty good. But, it's not the same as identifying that there is an issue on its own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) It’s not like the people in the company saw the issue themselves, until they were told that there were an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) The psychopathic guy who posted that LinkedIn post didn't see the issue. I doubt he passed the idea past the company's lawyers or PR team though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago So, the human needs to be an psychopath to not spot it and the people checking needs to have the job of spotting dumb ideas, to be able to see the issue. I tried running the idea past Ecosia’s AI (thinking mode) and it spots the issues right away plus other ones, including reputation harm to the company. Here is my prompt: a company is having a party for young people where non-employees can come too. At the party, there will be a tattoo artist where everyone can get a tattoo that they choose themselves. if people get a tattoo, they will get offered a job interview. what do you think about that idea? I’m not saying that AI can do anything a human can, but your claim that an AI can’t spot the issue without being told that one exist, is false. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago I checked and it seems like the main difference with an AI suggested apology is the addition of gaslighting: We did NOT offer instant interviews based on tattoos. That was never our intent. We brought a tattoo artist to our party as a fun, optional activity — like face painting or photo booths — to help break the ice. No one was pressured. No one was evaluated. And no one was hired because of a tattoo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago AI can if you go "and make sure to mention [INSERT PROBLEM HERE]" in the prompt. And that entire apology is most definitely AI slop written, it has every telltale sign, such as using weird grammar choices, and looking sycophantic permalink fedilink source parent [–] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago (2 children) Perhaps you haven’t been using LLMs recently - they absolutely do that now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] merc@sh.itjust.works -7 points 3 months ago (1 child) So, you describe a situation in neutral terms and it is able to decide what's ethical or unethical in that situation? Something that even humans are unable to do consistently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Or maybe they just used the feedback they got to craft the prompt. Or just fed the feedback directly into the llm and told it to craft an apology based on that. Regardless, I don't really care how they arrived at the soulless apology so I'm going to move on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (13 children) The apology identified the problem (AI can't do that) and came up with an appropriate remedy (AI can't do that). It may be that the final version of the text was written by an AI, but it seems likely that a PR firm or crisis communications firm was used to defuse the situation. Those companies are used not just because they can generate text, but because they're able to identify the problem, come up with a solution, and do it in a way that ends the news cycle. Those are skills that require empathy and understanding human nature, which is something AI doesn't do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 10 points 3 months ago (6 children) Dude you're so full of shit, it even identifies the fact it's a party and people were drunk and can't consent permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (5 children) By saying "What's the moral issue here?" You indicated there was a moral issue to find. I would bet that if you used that prompt for something where there were absolutely no moral issues, it would invent one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 2 points 3 months ago (4 children) But it didn’t invent an issue. It found the one talked about and several others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (3 children) Sure, and that's pretty good. But, it's not the same as identifying that there is an issue on its own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) It’s not like the people in the company saw the issue themselves, until they were told that there were an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) The psychopathic guy who posted that LinkedIn post didn't see the issue. I doubt he passed the idea past the company's lawyers or PR team though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago So, the human needs to be an psychopath to not spot it and the people checking needs to have the job of spotting dumb ideas, to be able to see the issue. I tried running the idea past Ecosia’s AI (thinking mode) and it spots the issues right away plus other ones, including reputation harm to the company. Here is my prompt: a company is having a party for young people where non-employees can come too. At the party, there will be a tattoo artist where everyone can get a tattoo that they choose themselves. if people get a tattoo, they will get offered a job interview. what do you think about that idea? I’m not saying that AI can do anything a human can, but your claim that an AI can’t spot the issue without being told that one exist, is false. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago I checked and it seems like the main difference with an AI suggested apology is the addition of gaslighting: We did NOT offer instant interviews based on tattoos. That was never our intent. We brought a tattoo artist to our party as a fun, optional activity — like face painting or photo booths — to help break the ice. No one was pressured. No one was evaluated. And no one was hired because of a tattoo. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago AI can if you go "and make sure to mention [INSERT PROBLEM HERE]" in the prompt. And that entire apology is most definitely AI slop written, it has every telltale sign, such as using weird grammar choices, and looking sycophantic permalink fedilink source parent [–] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago (2 children) Perhaps you haven’t been using LLMs recently - they absolutely do that now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] merc@sh.itjust.works -7 points 3 months ago (1 child) So, you describe a situation in neutral terms and it is able to decide what's ethical or unethical in that situation? Something that even humans are unable to do consistently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Or maybe they just used the feedback they got to craft the prompt. Or just fed the feedback directly into the llm and told it to craft an apology based on that. Regardless, I don't really care how they arrived at the soulless apology so I'm going to move on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 10 points 3 months ago (6 children) Dude you're so full of shit, it even identifies the fact it's a party and people were drunk and can't consent permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (5 children) By saying "What's the moral issue here?" You indicated there was a moral issue to find. I would bet that if you used that prompt for something where there were absolutely no moral issues, it would invent one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 2 points 3 months ago (4 children) But it didn’t invent an issue. It found the one talked about and several others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (3 children) Sure, and that's pretty good. But, it's not the same as identifying that there is an issue on its own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) It’s not like the people in the company saw the issue themselves, until they were told that there were an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) The psychopathic guy who posted that LinkedIn post didn't see the issue. I doubt he passed the idea past the company's lawyers or PR team though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago So, the human needs to be an psychopath to not spot it and the people checking needs to have the job of spotting dumb ideas, to be able to see the issue. I tried running the idea past Ecosia’s AI (thinking mode) and it spots the issues right away plus other ones, including reputation harm to the company. Here is my prompt: a company is having a party for young people where non-employees can come too. At the party, there will be a tattoo artist where everyone can get a tattoo that they choose themselves. if people get a tattoo, they will get offered a job interview. what do you think about that idea? I’m not saying that AI can do anything a human can, but your claim that an AI can’t spot the issue without being told that one exist, is false. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (5 children) By saying "What's the moral issue here?" You indicated there was a moral issue to find. I would bet that if you used that prompt for something where there were absolutely no moral issues, it would invent one. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 2 points 3 months ago (4 children) But it didn’t invent an issue. It found the one talked about and several others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (3 children) Sure, and that's pretty good. But, it's not the same as identifying that there is an issue on its own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) It’s not like the people in the company saw the issue themselves, until they were told that there were an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) The psychopathic guy who posted that LinkedIn post didn't see the issue. I doubt he passed the idea past the company's lawyers or PR team though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago So, the human needs to be an psychopath to not spot it and the people checking needs to have the job of spotting dumb ideas, to be able to see the issue. I tried running the idea past Ecosia’s AI (thinking mode) and it spots the issues right away plus other ones, including reputation harm to the company. Here is my prompt: a company is having a party for young people where non-employees can come too. At the party, there will be a tattoo artist where everyone can get a tattoo that they choose themselves. if people get a tattoo, they will get offered a job interview. what do you think about that idea? I’m not saying that AI can do anything a human can, but your claim that an AI can’t spot the issue without being told that one exist, is false. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 2 points 3 months ago (4 children) But it didn’t invent an issue. It found the one talked about and several others. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (3 children) Sure, and that's pretty good. But, it's not the same as identifying that there is an issue on its own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) It’s not like the people in the company saw the issue themselves, until they were told that there were an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) The psychopathic guy who posted that LinkedIn post didn't see the issue. I doubt he passed the idea past the company's lawyers or PR team though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago So, the human needs to be an psychopath to not spot it and the people checking needs to have the job of spotting dumb ideas, to be able to see the issue. I tried running the idea past Ecosia’s AI (thinking mode) and it spots the issues right away plus other ones, including reputation harm to the company. Here is my prompt: a company is having a party for young people where non-employees can come too. At the party, there will be a tattoo artist where everyone can get a tattoo that they choose themselves. if people get a tattoo, they will get offered a job interview. what do you think about that idea? I’m not saying that AI can do anything a human can, but your claim that an AI can’t spot the issue without being told that one exist, is false. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (3 children) Sure, and that's pretty good. But, it's not the same as identifying that there is an issue on its own. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) It’s not like the people in the company saw the issue themselves, until they were told that there were an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) The psychopathic guy who posted that LinkedIn post didn't see the issue. I doubt he passed the idea past the company's lawyers or PR team though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago So, the human needs to be an psychopath to not spot it and the people checking needs to have the job of spotting dumb ideas, to be able to see the issue. I tried running the idea past Ecosia’s AI (thinking mode) and it spots the issues right away plus other ones, including reputation harm to the company. Here is my prompt: a company is having a party for young people where non-employees can come too. At the party, there will be a tattoo artist where everyone can get a tattoo that they choose themselves. if people get a tattoo, they will get offered a job interview. what do you think about that idea? I’m not saying that AI can do anything a human can, but your claim that an AI can’t spot the issue without being told that one exist, is false. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago (2 children) It’s not like the people in the company saw the issue themselves, until they were told that there were an issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) The psychopathic guy who posted that LinkedIn post didn't see the issue. I doubt he passed the idea past the company's lawyers or PR team though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago So, the human needs to be an psychopath to not spot it and the people checking needs to have the job of spotting dumb ideas, to be able to see the issue. I tried running the idea past Ecosia’s AI (thinking mode) and it spots the issues right away plus other ones, including reputation harm to the company. Here is my prompt: a company is having a party for young people where non-employees can come too. At the party, there will be a tattoo artist where everyone can get a tattoo that they choose themselves. if people get a tattoo, they will get offered a job interview. what do you think about that idea? I’m not saying that AI can do anything a human can, but your claim that an AI can’t spot the issue without being told that one exist, is false. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) The psychopathic guy who posted that LinkedIn post didn't see the issue. I doubt he passed the idea past the company's lawyers or PR team though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago So, the human needs to be an psychopath to not spot it and the people checking needs to have the job of spotting dumb ideas, to be able to see the issue. I tried running the idea past Ecosia’s AI (thinking mode) and it spots the issues right away plus other ones, including reputation harm to the company. Here is my prompt: a company is having a party for young people where non-employees can come too. At the party, there will be a tattoo artist where everyone can get a tattoo that they choose themselves. if people get a tattoo, they will get offered a job interview. what do you think about that idea? I’m not saying that AI can do anything a human can, but your claim that an AI can’t spot the issue without being told that one exist, is false. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 1 point 3 months ago So, the human needs to be an psychopath to not spot it and the people checking needs to have the job of spotting dumb ideas, to be able to see the issue. I tried running the idea past Ecosia’s AI (thinking mode) and it spots the issues right away plus other ones, including reputation harm to the company. Here is my prompt: a company is having a party for young people where non-employees can come too. At the party, there will be a tattoo artist where everyone can get a tattoo that they choose themselves. if people get a tattoo, they will get offered a job interview. what do you think about that idea? I’m not saying that AI can do anything a human can, but your claim that an AI can’t spot the issue without being told that one exist, is false. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago I checked and it seems like the main difference with an AI suggested apology is the addition of gaslighting: We did NOT offer instant interviews based on tattoos. That was never our intent. We brought a tattoo artist to our party as a fun, optional activity — like face painting or photo booths — to help break the ice. No one was pressured. No one was evaluated. And no one was hired because of a tattoo. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago AI can if you go "and make sure to mention [INSERT PROBLEM HERE]" in the prompt. And that entire apology is most definitely AI slop written, it has every telltale sign, such as using weird grammar choices, and looking sycophantic permalink fedilink source parent
[–] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 months ago (2 children) Perhaps you haven’t been using LLMs recently - they absolutely do that now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] merc@sh.itjust.works -7 points 3 months ago (1 child) So, you describe a situation in neutral terms and it is able to decide what's ethical or unethical in that situation? Something that even humans are unable to do consistently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[+] merc@sh.itjust.works -7 points 3 months ago (1 child) So, you describe a situation in neutral terms and it is able to decide what's ethical or unethical in that situation? Something that even humans are unable to do consistently? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] elevenbones@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Or maybe they just used the feedback they got to craft the prompt. Or just fed the feedback directly into the llm and told it to craft an apology based on that. Regardless, I don't really care how they arrived at the soulless apology so I'm going to move on. permalink fedilink source parent