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The weirdest thing about American culture (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 30 points 3 months ago (19 children)

Gun laws not changing after every mass shooting incident

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Doesn't necessarily need to. Would open the door to many other awful laws based on single cases. Found a single case of gay men sexually abusing children? Ban homosexuality act enacted. Some gamer shoot up a school? Gaming banned.

    The UK might have banned consensual extreme pornography after one death, but it shouldn't be the norm. If anything, it should be seen as an infringement on human rights by anti-rights activists.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago* (16 children)

    Quick search indicates 342 million people in the United States according to their census, i tried to find the total amount of American citizens but that statistics doesn’t appear easy to find, if we divide it in half and say 171 million US citizens who all potentially own 1 maybe 2 maybe 5 maybe 10 firearms, even if the laws were to change federally at any point do you think every citizen is going to comply?

    Even the Canadian government struggles confiscating firearms from licensed owners, and that’s closer to 2 million firearms now prohibited, I can’t imagine how Americans would handle it.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Doesn't need to be confiscated. Just stop sales and the number goes down over time.

    And before you start, you don't have to stop all sales. We can start with the ones that have potential to kill the most.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    Firearms are known to last over a hundred years and can be rebuilt, they don’t just magically go away when sales stop.

    And as I mentioned in another comment, In the United States firearms don’t have to be registered, as far as I know this applies federally this may differ per state, how do you plan to track something with no traceability?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    We are in agreement. If someone wants to buy a firearm in the US there are many ways they can do so to skirt government oversight.

    But it would still good true that if you ban the sale of certain firearms, the number of people that own said type of firearm will go down over time. Simply introducing a barrier of entry is enough to deter at least some people from buying that specific firearm.

    That to me is fine. I don't think we should overspend our resources trying to do this. Just start with the low hanging fruit with the highest roi.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    Easy. Make it socially unacceptable.

    Happened with smoking.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    Firearms aren’t a social issue, you can’t stop people from camping in forests and using firearms as a tool for wilderness defence or folks who hunt and trap for a profession, not to mention people who live in remote locations where a Walmart is hours away opposed to minutes (I can’t confirm this last point for the US, but this is certainly a Canadian issue).

    Target shooting is also recognized as an Olympic sport globally, you want to prevent teams from practicing their sport?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Every other country has gun laws and still competes in shooting targets. Difference is they do t run through schools murdering

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    You don't have to have 1 dude do the whole job. You can just use an equal amount of people per capita as smaller countries have.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    If I’m not mistaken, not every firearm purchased in the US is registered. How do you expect people to find these firearms without traceability?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I don't. I think there isn't enough popular support for a gun ban for success to happen and it would be a pricey boondoggle. Laws that don't have public consensus behind them have a poor track record. Look at prohibition or the war on drugs.

    But it would not fail because of the size of the country. That's silly.

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