cross-posted from: https://quokk.au/c/fediverse/p/1066667/tesseract-dev-injects-malicious-code-into-browser-to-illegally-ddos-the-dbzer0-instance

As part of the devs farewell message on their site, they have included malicious code to make each visitor sends 2,000 requests to the dbzer0 servers in an attempt to DDOS and take the instance offline.

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[–] 92 points 3 months ago (74 children)

Surely that is actually illegal in some places.

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  • [–] 42 points 3 months ago*

    That does not excuse deliberately deploying a ddos tool.

    Maybe if he left like he wanted to and didn't make 3 blacklists people would not be calling him out on his shit.

    Those actually doxing him and no doubt calling for his death are also in the wrong.

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  • [–] 66 points 3 months ago* (52 children)

    Making memes and fun of a shitty block list is not illegal.

    Cyber crime, as awesome as it sounds , however is illegal. Not that we would want to bring cops into anything.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    Why do people so often assume total pricks are telling the truth? I doubt anyone here is cheering on death threats/doxxing. I find it hard to believe they actually happened. He provided zero evidence of it.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    Trusting the victims and healthy scepticism are always at odds with each other, but in this case AdmiralPatrick has already been caught in bad faith arguments before where others have had receipts and he had nothing.

    It wouldn't entirely suprise me if some nutcase actually did send him some death threat, but in this instance I'm not going to just take his word for it.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    I mean considering they've had zero qualms name dropping entire instances, users, communities the fact there's zero pillorying of those sending "death threats" looks suuusss

    But if they drops names it's easy to disprove

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  • [–] 45 points 3 months ago (26 children)

    They were being doxxed, getting death threats, harassed, etc.

    Uhhh...Evidence?

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  • [–] 53 points 3 months ago* (9 children)

    I don't think anyone trusts a word they say without legitimate evidence. The user has been shown to act unethical and make things up.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Next time you get a fine for drunk driving just tell the police guy:

    Somehow I knew that would be the response, you police people are all the same...

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    One side of the story has evidence. I'll listen to that side.

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  • [–] 37 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    We have proof the guy tried to secretly censor the entire fediverse to promote a conservative agenda. We have proof they committed cyber crimes. There is a pattern of dishonest behaviour.

    We don't have ANY evidence of the death threats or doxxing beyond the claims of a man proven to be dishonest. You don't have any, and try to hide the fact you don't have any with a weak "you wouldn't believe it". The same way I tell my friends "you wouldn't know her, she goes to a different school."

    Right now, the two possibilities are that literally everyone except you has been tricked, or you have been misled by a desperate, proven liar. Take a second to consider the possibility that, maybe, you're wrong to trust them.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago

    ...But you ARE trusting them. You're taking their word that the internet is doing horrible things to him. You forget that they are ALSO on the internet, and capable of lying to discredit the consequences of their own actions. You are ALSO on the internet, and a part of the toxicity you rail against.

    Take your hands off the keyboard, put them on your lap, take a deep breath, and audibly say the words "it is possible I am wrong about this."

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago

    Yes, there are lots of whiny moralists around who think being civil and avoiding difficult topics and turning the fediverse into some sort of curated PG friendly space is the best solution. Preferably with government ID checking built in.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Uhh… their goodbye post where they lay it out?

    You mean the homepage that tries to ddos a lemmy instance if I access it?

    Yeah, no idea why I don't want to access that page. /s

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    The response to the illegal actions then are between the Tesseract dev and law enforcement.

    "Was being doxxed" or whatever other claims were made, are not, and never will be, legal justification for starting a cyber attack on anybody.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago

    You can’t provoke someone in to shooting you than press charges, that’s what this would be like.

    That depends entirely on what you mean by "provoke". The only time you can ever shoot someone and not go to jail for it is if you can prove it was self defense, and the threshold to prove self defense can be extremely high, depending on jurisdiction.

    And for every other type of offence, doing something illegal in response to someone doing something illegal to you just means you both go to jail. "He did it first!" never even worked in grade school, not sure why you expect it to work as an adult.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago

    i’ve been having a grand ol’ time skimming the tea threads and i haven’t seen a single instance of death threats or doxxing. not that it’s not happening, but that’s FAR from the general public response here.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    They were being doxxed

    By definition, you can’t privately doxx someone, and I’ve found no evidence that anyone doxxed him. Sounds like BS.

    getting death threats

    If true, yeah that’s a crime. He should report it.

    harassed

    This is too vague. I dint doubt he got messages about what a dick he was, secretly forcing his ideals onto others without letting them know. I 100% believe that happened, but I 100% disagree that is harassment. I also 100% believe he would call it harassment out of convenience. He definitely seems like a very fragile individual.

    I do need to ask, if I claimed some random thing while ddosing you, would you believe me?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Well, yeah, people who done that should also be investigated. How does this contradicts slazer2au's point?

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    "Lemmy users" is pretty vague.

    Unless you are accusing the specific users you're replying to of the crimes you're bringing up, what's the point of responding to them?

    I didn't do any of the things you're bringing up. Why would a response asking "lemmy users too look at themselves" be relevant to me?

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    You're whataboutisming along the lines of "you should think about you've done first" to people who probably aren't even the ones who did the things you're bringing up.

    You're not commenting to add that people were dicks to the tesseract dev, too.

    You're commenting that people were dicks to the tesseract dev first, and pushing everything that putting it that way implies.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    What’s the tesseract drama?

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  • [–] 26 points 3 months ago* (7 children)

    Tesseract is a lemmy frontend a lot of people use. The dev secretly added a blocklist to the software that hides ANYTHING they don't approve of, which includes: discussing zionism, discussing mod abuse, discussing billionaires, a lot of generic news communities, the Wholesome Yuri community, the dz0 instance, and a LOT more. It also includes over 500 users who didn't do anything worthy of a ban (at least of that scale).

    It's nakedly a single person trying to force their own agenda. They got called out, and they took it as well as you could expect. Which is to say, they're crashing out HARD.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Don't forget he blacklisted any communities about "identity politics" I.e. LGBTQ+ spaces

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  • [–] 39 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    unless you live on the moon, which legally cannot be "owned" by any country and therefore isn't under the jurisdiction of any country, then this is, in fact, illegal in every place.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    No doubt there are some nations that don't have rules for this like developing nations.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Well there's no way they could pass legislation at the breakneck speeds of the U.S. Congress.

    Like I'm pretty sure e.g. Russia wouldn't enforce law against a DDoS attack when it's targeted at an EU/NA based service, but it's probably still unlawful.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    If he’s US based it’s very illegal. DDOSing can carry a prison sentence of up to 10 years. His hosting provider already took it down, and I’m pretty sure they’re obligated to report criminal activity on their networks, so this guy is probably fucked.

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