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[–] 18 points 3 months ago (29 children)

Organize with a local group of like minded minorities. Suddenly, less of a minority

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    It's almost like organisation is what makes minorities harder to oppress, not guns.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    They are both very valuable tools when facing a fascist regime with a monopoly on violence... take the history of the blck panthers as one example. The government was so afraid of them, they made new gun laws. Almost like education is about empowerment and legislation is about control. but you do you i suppose.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Everyone keeps bringing up the Black Panthers like it was during a time that they had targeting drones and spyware across the city. They didn't.

    The government was so afraid of them, they made new gun laws.

    They made new gun laws and also made them dissolve. Do you know of any uprisings recently? I tell you where they go now, to become slaves in the private prisons on pot charges.

    Also, even with the low government tech of the time, they were targeted and harassed and an authoritarian took them over.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party

    I know you're trolling, but if you can' only bring up 50 year old shit that's not relevant, you might want to rethink your strategy.

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    Fuck it, if you dontnwant to do something about it, just leave then. Idk what you want me to tell you. As a trans woman with very mixed heritage, organization and community defense is the only reason i exist.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    Fuck it, if you dontnwant to do something about it, just leave then. Idk what you want me to tell you. As a trans woman with very mixed heritage, organization and community defense is the only reason i exist.

    What are you talking about? As I said in another post, community and grouping together is the best way. Bringing guns is incredibly stupid and inviting suicide by cop. Alex Pretti was doing it legal and he still got killed.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (9 children)

    Cops ae not your biggest concern anymore. It is the emboldened and armed assholes that rape and murder us. It is the state that refuses to charge them. So dont let them kill you first. They want to exterminate us. No amount of peace and love will fight that

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (8 children)

    So you just want to own a gun to protect yourself? You do you and whatever.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (7 children)

    What part of cummunity defense flew over your head? We protect all sorts of vulnerable groups from would.be terrorists.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago* (6 children)

    But not from cops. Also, what's up with "your" in your paragraph.

    Cops ae not your biggest concern anymore.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    .....okay, well next time youre at a leftist based training or minority event that has independent security, maybe you'll consider this conversation and thank your local defense group. Its okay if you dont want to be armed. But armed resistance is vital right now.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    You're talking in circles and slip away every time I try to pin you down. Does this sound like you're saying the same thing to you? I said protecting yourself (your community) is fine, whatever.

    They are both very valuable tools when facing a fascist regime with a monopoly on violence… take the history of the blck panthers as one example. The government was so afraid of them, they made new gun laws. Almost like education is about empowerment and legislation is about control. but you do you i suppose.

    Fuck it, if you dontnwant to do something about it, just leave then. Idk what you want me to tell you. As a trans woman with very mixed heritage, organization and community defense is the only reason i exist.

    Cops ae not your biggest concern anymore. It is the emboldened and armed assholes that rape and murder us. It is the state that refuses to charge them. So dont let them kill you first. They want to exterminate us. No amount of peace and love will fight that

    What part of cummunity defense flew over your head? We protect all sorts of vulnerable groups from would.be terrorists.

    …okay, well next time youre at a leftist based training or minority event that has independent security, maybe you’ll consider this conversation and thank your local defense group. Its okay if you dont want to be armed. But armed resistance is vital right now.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Like, im trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but i really dont udnerstand what youre lost on.

    Cops will not protect us. But if we want to resist fascism and live our best lives, we have to be able to protect ourselves. When facing literal extermination from just the sychophants, yes that means guns and organized community defense.

    When we (trans people, women, people of color, etc) are being literally disappeared at best, arming ouselves is the least we can do and you spouting this nonsense liberal kumbaya shit is making your privelege show.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    You don't seem to understand that I'm agreeing with that part and keep fighting with me? You were promoting violence or I should get the fuck out. Defense and performing suicide by cop are waaaay fucking different things. Last comment.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    What is the reply you want to see here? Almost looks like ban baiting.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (5 children)

    Almost looks like ban baiting.

    There's no rule @pelespirit@sh.itjust.works has broken by making you feel annoyed and the argument in the OP look stupid.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    For clarification, I'm suggesting that pelespirit's comments are an attempt to get others to break the rules by encouraging them to describe some of the things guns can be used for so those users get the boot. Baiting them into a ban.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Oh, I didn't even consider that because if you manage to get yourself banned in this comm based on something so unbelievably innocuous, you have actual interpersonal issues you need to work on.

    Like if a response to basic interrogation of your premise is enough to get you banned here, that's 1000% on you; in this hypothetical, you didn't fall for "bait", you just have zero composure.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)