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LG TVs and monitors said to surveil users and install bloatware without asking (www.notebookcheck.net)
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[–] 158 points 3 months ago (30 children)

This is because as soon as a monitor is connected to a Windows computer, it automatically installs both the LG Monitor App Installer and McAfee Scam Detector without ever asking the user for permission.

Is this not a felony under U.S. law? Computer hacking has HUGE criminal liability.

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  • [–] 76 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Name something you do as a corporation to avoid any laws or accountability with the current administration

    BRIBE THE DOJ

    let's see if that answer's on the board..survey says...!

    DING

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago* (17 children)

    It probably says somewhere in the ToS, which is still a fucking disgrace that those exists, without having to make clear and obvious bullet points you click "consent".

    Even having to make consent multiple times should be mandatory for every shit they try to do.

    Solution if users shouldnt hit consent multiple times? Dont do shady shit.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I can't remember the specifics right now, but in Gamers Nexus video from yesterday, according to LG ToS you must disclose something regarding spying and wiretapping laws to your family and anyone visiting your house

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I have a plan: we pass a law that any contract intended for the public (ToS, various other terms and conditions, privacy policies, etc) must be at the average reading level of the American public. We'll either incentivize better education or better contracts. Maybe both!

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Or standardize agreements that can be agreed to with just clicks so you can tell what's up from just seeing which agreement modules are included and what parameters they have (along with a bunch of sites that explain them in easier terms for the less literate, which will be useful because they are standards used by many agreements rather than needing a unique one for each version of each document).

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    Apparently it's windows doing it. Not the monitor via the HDMI or something. I guess that's what you get for using windows.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    Yep. Windows installs manufacturer “helper” apps automatically like drivers. Got a Logitech mouse? You probably have a Logitech app in there you never asked for too because you plugged it in.

    Stop using windows.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I don't use windows

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    I had to go and find the Logitech app and install it myself. Otherwise it just used the minimal drivers that were built into windows.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    Maybe wired mice and those without rainbow barf behave differently.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    Let me guess, proprietary drivers cause this and the open source or generic drivers lack “functionality”.

    If it turns on, reaches its peek resolution and refresh rate that is good enough for me, I genuinely can care less for HDR or the nitty gritty features.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Monitors don't need drivers. Your GPU needs drivers, and you might need color correction for your monitor.

    Microslop decided that any device that is plugged in might need drivers. They allow device manufacturers to specify an arbitrary program to be downloaded and executed by Windows Update, any time a device they make is plugged in.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    And if that driver/software does evil or is so poorly written it meets driver verification but exposes vulnerabilities, how is that Microsoft's fault

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Microsoft is the company that approved the software to automatically download and run as admin when a specific device is plugged in. The OEM submitted malware and Microsoft approved it. Both are at fault for letting malware download and run on your device.

    In the case of vulnerabilities, MS is fully aware of this happening frequently and has announced they want to do something about it, but hasn't actually done anything about it.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Old monitors need it for absolutely nothing, like my 2020 LG. Every feature works out of the box, because it has to over display cables.

    I think at most it adds an ICC profile, but it's not matched to the panel anyway and you can just install that seperately.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    No, no no. That's only if you do it. If a huge corporation does it, see, that's different. Corporations are "people" for the purposes of free speech (with money) or even voting (example), but when it comes time to throw somebody in jail for overtly criminal behavior, all of the sudden the legal system can't find anyone to target.

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