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Valid point (piefed.cdn.blahaj.zone)
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[–] 83 points 4 months ago (55 children)

Uhm... on top of not having my phone as my single payment method... where should I carry my id and driver's license and medical card if not in the wallet? Should I carry them loose in the pocket? Or in my bag? Why? That's so unconvenient and in the long term ends up damaging them.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    So, Gen z just like doesn't carry those or will have maybe one at a time if they have to just hanging loose. Yeah, it's weird.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Gen z here, I do use a wallet but many people use these sticky wallets that you slap on the back of your phone case to hold their cards.

    I don't use them because 1. what if something slips out somehow and 2. damn you lose your phone and wallet in one.

    We don't just leave shit hanging loose lol. We still have credit cards and drivers licenses to hold.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago*

    i had one of those wallet phone cases and lost my phone. luckily it was at pride and whoever found it was not an asshole. tracked the phone and got it back, and thankfully didnt get my card used or stolen. i learned that day.

    (i only lost it that once. just my luck lol)

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I barely keep my phone on me, period. I hate the thing.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I have a job that prohibits me from having a phone during working hours. It broke me of my dependency and now ive notice people getting irritated if i dont respond in minutes. Some days, they'll just have to wait til 5 until I can check it again.

    But it's also made me so much less attached. I regularly dont have it on me

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    I usually get plastic sleeves with those, so yes, I just have a stack of cards in my pocket. At least I can fit it in together with a phone.

    Although I don't know how to deal with coins. A jacket brings me extra pockets at least, which is why I can more or less only use cash during winter.
    Buying a wallet requires a choice. Searching for something right, and I am too lazy for that, so in the pocket it goes. Unfortunately, I often lack pockets. So if I am not traveling, I'll just leave out my phone, so I can still fit in keys, cards, and a shopping bag. After all, I don't need a phone most of the time anyway.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    If you lose your phone, you lose everything tho.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (6 children)

    This is why you always have to carry physical ID when you're driving.

    Yes it has happened to me before. Just less often than losing my wallet when i used to have one that didn't attach to the phone.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    Yes. But you said that you can leave your wallet at home, hence leaving all your documents on it and carrying just your phone. You can get involved in a car crash without driving by being a passanger or simply someone walking on the street or biking.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    You can also be hit by a meteorite.

    But it’s unlikely, just as it is unlikely for most people to need physical cards.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Where do you live that you think you have the same odds of getting hit by a meteorite than of getting hit by a car while crossing the street?

    Again, if your phone fails, how do you pay? How do you get identified? Without physical cards?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    I have no need to be identified usually. And phones don’t tend to suddenly fail.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    They don't, until they do. Or until you drop them and fall in a bad way and break, or until you forget them somewhere or lose them. I mean, I don't really care, you do you; but you seem really hostile to the idea of carrying a small wallet with your cards while trusting everything to an electronic device that might fail for no apparent reason.

    I already got once in a situation where my phone died and having my cards with me made the whole ordeal way easier than if they had to figure out who I were without any kind of id. I really hope you don't ever get in one.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I have a 3d printed card holder I made.

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Is that not just a wallet?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    My thought exactly. A decade or so ago my back was hurting and I decided to try a different style of wallet. Upgraded to a better one when I realized it works for me.

    Even if all I have in it are cards, id, and a single dollar bill, it's still a wallet, just doesn't leave me sitting at an angle. Yeah I had a Costanza wallet going on.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    In Denmark those are all available on your phone.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Yes, and if your phone runs out of battery, gets stolen or simply dies in any way, you won't have access to them.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    My phone battery doesn't die, I have to charge it every night though.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Bold of you to assume your phone will never fail you.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Everything fails. Do you know how many times I've forgotten my wallet various places? My phone just fails less.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    How is it a bigger risk? Two things = two things to lose. Especially since the tile in the wallet is worse than find my in the phone.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    Ever heard of the saying "never put all the eggs in the same basket"? It's harder to lose two different things at the same time than to lose one. You might lose your wallet but keep your phone or viceversa, but it's way more difficult to lose both at the same time if they are in separate pockets. Also, paper documents work even if they get damaged, a phone might not.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I've heard of it, but have you heard of minimizing an attack surface? Your overall risk goes down if you can minimize it.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    You can't make a phone smaller than it is. You are putting all your eggs on the same basket. You lose one, you lose everything. And, as I said, losing is not just forgetting it somewhere. You can drop it without noticing, you could get pickpocketed, you could damage it accidentally... You do you, but you are not minimizing the risk by having everything important on the same place and trusting your everything to one single item.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    why would you even carry your id? the driver's license is always in the car and the medical card is only needed for appointments at the doctor

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago

    I don't know anyone who keeps their license in their car. Car culture is different in the us vs the eu, so maybe not as common over there, but sometimes if traveling with friends you will switch who drives. You should have your license on you if you're driving. Additionally, it's good to have your ID in case you forget your credit card somewhere and now you have a document with your picture on it that has a name that matches the card. I still get carded sometimes when buying alcohol or entering certain places so it's not unusual to want to keep it on hand in case you want drinks or something.

    Also good to have your ID and insurance information in case of an emergency.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Because a cop can stop you at any time, in any place for any reason and while (legally) you don't need to show it - your day will suddenly get a whole lot worse if you don't.

    And In the year of our Lord - you must also worry about ICE

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Laughs in EU

    No I'm really sorry you have to go through that shit in the US right now, it's hopefully gonna get better soon

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    I might drive my car, I might drive my partner's, I might drive my coworker's car. I might collapse on the street and someone needs to figure out who I am from what I'm carrying. The license/id stays with me, not the vehicle.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    If you need to use a car that's not yours, what would you do if the license is in the car?

    And why wouldn't you carry your id with you? Not just police might want to stop and ask for it, but what if you get involved in an accident and have to get taken to the hospital while unconscious? How are they going to id you to know who to call? Just to say an example.

    Also, your medical card should always be with you in case of an emergency. You never know when will you need to be taken to the hospital and having it with you makes everything much easier.

    There's no advantage that I can think of in not carrying your documents (or even copies of them) with you.

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