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Andy Burnham Crushes Reform in Makerfield (novaramedia.com)
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[–] 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

Would you prefer that Farage wins the next UK general election?

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Got to echo this.

    Unlike the low-stakes infighting nonsense that we often have, this is really important.

    Multiple polls have shown that not only is Andy Burnham much more popular than Starmer (big surprise, who isn't?), but that he's more popular than Farage. And that is a big deal, because almost nobody else is.

    He's an attractive choice for the left, and he's attractive for Northerners who want change - two camps which Starmer has well and truly lost.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Are any of the Left still in the Labour Party?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Not really... but I bet there's quite a lot who'll simply follow the current party line, so if the Labour leader were to steer things leftwards towards the centre (or ideally past it), many of them would follow it.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Starmer stood for Labour leadership on a considerably lefter platform than the vague stuff Burnham's been saying. Burnham as PM isn't going to change Labour's current policies. He might be better at campaigning. When people realise that nothing's going to change, helped by the rightwing press, they'll turn on him too.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    The difference is that he's got form.

    I, like most people here (Manchester), voted against having a mayor in the first place. When the Tories made the position anyway, I voted against Andy Burnham.

    But he's absolutely won me over. In the time he's been mayor, directly because of his policies, Manchester has improved dramatically.

    Starmer promised a lot, but Burnham has actually delivered change already.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    No of course not.

    It just seems like their time could be better spent dealing with problems instead of infighting. Then maybe the deluded fools who've fallen for the Farage con would wake up.

    But that's wishful thinking. I'm old enough and cynical enough to see how little really changes. The rich still get richer with the rest fighting over an ever shrinking slice of the pie while politicians tinker around the edges.

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