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[Ethics] Why do people condemn Zoophilia on the basis of other animal's inability to consent but those same people kill animals without asking for their consent? Why such inconsistency? (lemmy.world)
submitted 4 months ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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[โ€“] 11 points 4 months ago (12 children)

One is torture.

The other is a means of survival.

It's acceptable to kill for survival.

It's not acceptable to torture and hurt for sexual gratification that can be gained solo with no one else involved.

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  • [โ€“] 16 points 4 months ago*

    So shouldn't the same logic dictate that it is not acceptable to kill for culinary satisfaction, if nutrition can be gained without killing a creature? (Which is very possible in most parts of the world)

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  • [โ€“] 25 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Modern meat consumption is very disconnected from survival for most people though.

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  • [โ€“] 16 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    More humans could survive with more food if we reused the land growing food for animals for growing food for humans to eat. We would need so much less land that we could rewild a lot of it, and massively reduce the amount of carbon being released into the atmosphere as well.

    But people like meat and will react badly to anyone suggesting that eating less is a good idea for everyone.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    More humans could survive with more food if we reused the land growing food for animals for growing food for humans to eat.

    Animals are raised on grass land, which is different from cropland. Even if all the animals disappeared tomorrow we wouldn't have any extra cropland.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    I do feel like most people I talk to irl seem to agree that eating less meat is good for everyone, but that's very local of course, and agreeing and doing it is also not necessarily connected ๐Ÿ˜…

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 4 months ago

    agree that eating less meat is good for everyone

    I think this is just human nature, you say the socially acceptable thing to move the conversation along even if it wont impact their behavior. In a situation where the topic comes up (even staunch pro-meat doctors) the path of least resistance is to smile nod and "agree".

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  • [โ€“] [S] -1 points 4 months ago
    • Zoophilia is Rape (sex without consent)
    • Killing animal is Murder .

    In both cases we should be considering animal's perspective (what animals feel in both cases). We can't just involve human's perspective for our own convenience. Do animals consent to be murdered? I don't think so.

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