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Slate Auto gets serious about privacy for its bare-bones EV pickup (arstechnica.com)
submitted 5 months ago by to c/electricvehicles@slrpnk.net
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If they actually follow through on making the Slate as privacy friendly as they claim in this article, and it doesn't have any major flaws, I'm gonna go ahead and say this is perhaps one of the best options for someone in need of a mini-truck/SUV hybrid.

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[–] 3 points 5 months ago (6 children)

  1. Does every EV startup in US have to make a pickup? Such a stupid country.

  2. EU just made driver facing cameras mandatory for all new cars so I guess Europe is not much smart either.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Just to be clear, this "truck" is absolutely tiny. It's several inches shorter than a Toyota Corolla. I think it's pretty great for a city dweller that occasionally has a need for a bit more carrying capacity.

    Edit: with the one big caveat that a lot of city dwellers don't have access to charging at home.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Do you have a source for the second claim?

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I have to admit I missed that to. They have hidden it behind innocent looking names and ADDW and DDAW. Starting next month it's mandatory in all cars that are sold in EU.

    https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=intcom%3AC%282023%294523

    https://www.autonomousvehicleinternational.com/news/legislation/new-eu-safety-regulations-mandate-the-use-of-adas.html

    https://smarteye.se/blog/what-to-know-about-ddaw-and-addw-systems/

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  • [+] -7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Driver facing camera systems can be consistent with privacy, as long as they don't record or transmit any data other than a single dimensional metric of how distracted or drowsy a driver is (or even discrete binary state of yes/no) and timestamps when that state was detected.

    A closed loop system that merely keeps that data for the current drive and maintains it solely in the vehicle's own systems can be consistent with privacy principles that nobody else should know anything about how a car is being used, except what can be observed from the outside.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    Yes, it's all true.

    Too bad those systems are closed sources and we can't verify they do any of those things.

    My biggest issue with them is not even the privacy. I think at some point we sadly will have to accept that driving is not a private activity anymore. I mean you can still try driving a very old car and try to avoid traffic cameras but it will be harder and harder.

    For me the biggest issue that those systems are extremely annoying. In my experience they fail to accurately recognize the speed limits so will beep at you constantly even when you drive below the speed limit. People say they also struggle with sunglasses and many normal activities. I expect driving those new cars to be constant struggle with alerts about nothing.

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