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[–] 137 points 5 months ago (86 children)

I never knew of the existence of an "Isreal Day" parade. Is there any other country focused parades out there? I don't recall there being a British Day parade or Mexico day parade.

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  • [–] 49 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (15 children)

    NYC loves its parades. There's the Puerto Rican day parade for one, that one is pretty big. I wouldn't look too much into that aspect of it.

    Of course, fuck Israel nevertheless

    Edit: there's so many that Futurama made a joke about it

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Not sure that compares since Puerto Rico is an American territory.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    NYC has huge populations of both intermingled with just about every other cultural or ethnic group you can imagine

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    There’s also St Patrick’s for Irish, and some Italian festivals, lgbtq parades, police parades (actually I think that overlaps with St Patrick’s).

    When you live in tiny apartments, almost any excuse to be outside is welcome.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    So does New Orleans and we don't have an Israeli parade to my knowledge

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Sure, but does New Orleans have a large jewish population? NYC historically does, so it's no surprise there is influence. Israel can burn imo but I'm not shocked that somewhere with a high percentage of jewish people would have a parade in support of Israel, especially considering the work Israel does to push the connection between judaism and Israel.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    There are a ton of parades for one nationality or another in NYC. If you accept one's like St. Patrick's day, which are strongly associated with one country despite not being called the "X Nationality Day Parade," you have the Irish, Scottish, Germans, Dominicans, Panamanians, Japanese and Chinese covered, at least.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Mexico day parade

    Dude. May was Just Here

    British Day parade

    Um, hello-oo, 4th of July....

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  • [–] 36 points 5 months ago (61 children)

    St. Patrick's Day? Cinco de Mayo?

    I get it that the situation with Israel is different, because the Jewish diaspora ≠ Israeli diaspora, and the state of Israel has an undue and disproportionate influence over US politics due to AIPAC, lobbying, and dual citizens in Congress.

    And that's all without even mentioning the unmitigated war crimes of the settler-colonial project that is modern Israel.

    But let's not be ignorant. The US does celebrate other nations' and cultures' holidays, to an extent.

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  • [–] 35 points 5 months ago* (19 children)

    Cinco de mayo is purely a United Statesian holiday. Mexicans have no idea what it is. (I guess United Statesians dont either lol, but it is a US holiday.)

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Fun history lesson, Cinco de Mayo was first celebrated in the Mexican communities of California. It celebrates the Mexican victory over the French at the Battle of Puebla in 1862. It was widely popularized by the Chicano movement in the 1950s.

    Battle of Puebla Day was and sort of still is a holiday in Mexico, but it's not on any official observances list, but school children do get the day off nationwide, and there's reenactments and parades in Puebla. Widespread celebration fell off after the dictator who was fond of the holiday was deposed in 1911.

    More fun history, the French won the Second Battle of Puebla a year later and then occupied Mexico City in their attempt to found a new Empire out of Mexico, because Napoleon the 3rd wanted one, but was way too incompetent to war with the rest of Europe. (He did some fighting in the Crimean War, but forgot to bring the artillery, the first Napoleon was an Artillery commander)

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    And St Patrick's Day is more of an America and Ireland thing. It's certainly not British.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    I never said it was British. What the fuck?

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    Op said British Day or Mexican Day parade and you responded with St Patrick's Day and Cinco de Mayo.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    It's not bad faith, you just made an unfortunate choice of example. It's ok you can just say that wasn't your intention and everyone moves on. Oops lol hehe etc.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah, it's not my intent to make what amounts to an ignorant comment. My thought has always been that Cinco de Mayo and St Patrick Day celebrates cultures - not blatently stating that it's a "country" celebration.. The title of this parade, from an outsider looking in, doesn't seem to emphasize the culture, but rather the country.

    Around my area, we have the Polish Day Parade. The point to celebrate the Polish culture. In this case, calling it an Isreal Day Parade seems to bring the country as the subject, not the culture and not the Jewish religion.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    No it’s true based on a comment above this appears to NOT commemorate any particular historical event but just a thing. https://zoa.org/events/parade/

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  • [–] 25 points 5 months ago (20 children)

    Neither of those are comparable if you look at the contents of the events...or how they started....or even just the names.

    IDO5 isn't a celebration of Israeli culture. Its purpose is to celebrate the country/government. The theme of this parade is "Proud Americans, Proud Zionists"

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    Pretty weird, right? It's not about something commemorative, it's literally a propaganda parade.

    Imagine St. Patrick's Day parades where they push the idea that Ireland should conquer the British isles

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    My bullshit Mossad propaganda:

    I get it that the situation with Israel is different, because the Jewish diaspora ≠ Israeli diaspora, and the state of Israel has an undue and disproportionate influence over US politics due to AIPAC, lobbying, and dual citizens in Congress.

    And that's all without even mentioning the unmitigated war crimes of the settler-colonial project that is modern Israel.

    Literally.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    It means exactly what it says. Do you see the word holiday in that quote?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    What days do parades happen on?

    The two holidays I mentioned both involve parades.

    Are you this dense, or just being disingenuous?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, and I pointed out two parades that are on holidays. What's your point?

    At this rate it seems you're the one being either dumb or disingenuous. And I hope your ill-will turns around and bites you twice as hard as you wish it on me.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I literally pointed out the differences and nuance and what the actual problem with the Israel Day parade is, but if you want to just ignore that like you didn't read it at all, that's fine, go ahead.

    Jackass.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    Why is it we can never have a conversation about Israel without you fucking people lying about everything? It has to be deliberate.

    What conversation? It’s a river of hateorade as usual. Are you not Intertained? We hate Israel, end of story.

    Oh wait, someone’s not on board with “carpet bombing them back to the biblical days they want to live in”? Looks like it’s shivvin’ time! And while the curb stomping continues, you can tut-tut and opine: why can’t we just have a conversation?

    🎶🎵You know where you are? You’re in the Lefty Jungle, baby! You’re gonna diiiieeeee 🥁🎸🥁🎶🎵
    (That’s a reference to a rock song called “In the Jungle”, not any sort of threat, just to be clear for those who may be unaware. Relax, everybody’s fine.)

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Only in NYC or in the United States? Or globally celebrating internationally?

    In New Brunswick, NJ, there's a Hungarian Festival. It's not a parade, but it shuts down the street whose historical significance is being the first street lit by Edison's lamps.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    In the Boston area, yeah, we have a whole bunch of national cultural festivals and parades. St. Patrick's Day is the really big one because of all the Irish, but there's also a lot of Italian and Greek and others. Edit: and Chinese, that's a really big one too

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